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redPen 
"Because I said so!"
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 Posted - 12/29/2006 : 17:42:27
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This'll tell us what's really in these wicked movie minds of ours:
Who is your favorite movie villain and why? Also, what is your favorite villain "evil line"? The line does NOT necessarily have to come from your favorite villain, though it certainly may.
For me, the most fun villain was Russell Crowe's "S.I.D. 6.7" in Virtuosity. I think it was because he had such a boyish delight about doing his dastardly deeds. For the non-viewers, Crowe played the physical manifestation of a virtual reality persona, who was the mental composite of 100+ serial killers (Gacy, Speck, etc.), including one fictional killer who had murdered Denzel Washington's wife and daughter. So now, Crowe is playing cat-and-mouse with Washington. In one scene, he releases Washington from cuffs after killing the guards watching him (which Washington will then get the blame for). Before he leaves, S.I.D. says gleefully: "Just because I'm carrying the joy of killing your family inside me doesn't mean we can't be friends." Ooooooooooooooooooh, that's cold!
However, my single favorite villain line was uttered in "The Long Kiss Goodnight." Geena Davis plays a government spy, and the bad guy she's trying to stop has her daughter hostage. After arranging a meeting time and place, the villain says in a serious monotone:
"And Charlie? You fuck with me, I'll blind the kid and shoot out her knees."
I think it's the gruesome and well-thought-out details that make that line the "villainiest" for me!
C'mon, everyone . . . villain up! |
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 12/29/2006 : 18:35:54
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Oooo this will be fun. I'm on vacation I have lots of time to work on this. I'll start with a quick and easy one. Darth Vader is one of the all time best villains (or at least he was before we learned what a tragic figure he is but that's for another discussion). And he gives some great lines. I'll pick out two quick ones that don't require stage direction:
"I find your lack of faith disturbing."
"It is pointless to resist, my son."
That second one is particularly disturbing because it highlights his willingness to deliver his own flesh and blood into evil either because he's weak or for his own purposes. |
Edited by - Downtown on 12/29/2006 18:40:27 |
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w22dheartlivie 
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 12/30/2006 : 01:48:40
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SPOILER!!!!!!
One of my favorite villians is Kevin Spacey's John Doe in Seven. He's just purely insane.
David Mills: Wait, I thought all you did was kill innocent people.
John Doe: Innocent? Is that supposed to be funny? An obese man... a disgusting man who could barely stand up; a man who if you saw him on the street, you'd point him out to your friends so that they could join you in mocking him; a man, who if you saw him while you were eating, you wouldn't be able to finish your meal. After him, I picked the lawyer and I know you both must have been secretly thanking me for that one. This is a man who dedicated his life to making money by lying with every breath that he could muster to keeping murderers and rapists on the streets! A woman... so ugly on the inside she couldn't bear to go on living if she couldn't be beautiful on the outside. A drug dealer, a drug dealing pederast, actually! And let's not forget the disease-spreading whore! Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face. But that's the point. We see a deadly sin on every street corner, in every home, and we tolerate it. We tolerate it because it's common, it's trivial. We tolerate it morning, noon, and night. Well, not anymore. I'm setting the example. What I've done is going to be puzzled over and studied and followed... forever.
[William Somerset looks at an object in the road]
David Mills: What do you got?
William Somerset: Dead dog.
John Doe: (with disdain) I didn't do that.
John Doe: I visited your home this morning after you'd left. I tried to play husband. I tried to taste the life of a simple man. It didn't work out, so I took a souvenir... her pretty head."
David Mills: What's in the box? What's in the boxxx????
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redPen
"Because I said so!"
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Posted - 12/30/2006 : 02:49:09
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POTENTIAL SPOILER:
Very good choice, Wild! Hey, did anyone else ever hear that the screenwriters for "Se7en" and "The Usual Suspects" were friends, and that they decided as an inside joke that "John Doe" was actually "Verbal Kint/Keyser Soze" after several years of growing even madder? It was pure luck/fate/coincidence (according to the story) that Spacey was cast in both parts!
Those are the kind of rumors that I just love to believe are true, cuz they're so damn cool!
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w22dheartlivie
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 12/30/2006 : 02:55:38
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Originally posted by redPen
POTENTIAL SPOILER:
Very good choice, Wild! Hey, did anyone else ever hear that the screenwriters for "Se7en" and "The Usual Suspects" were friends, and that they decided as an inside joke that "John Doe" was actually "Verbal Kint/Keyser Soze" after several years of growing even madder? It was pure luck/fate/coincidence (according to the story) that Spacey was cast in both parts!
Those are the kind of rumors that I just love to believe are true, cuz they're so damn cool!
I hadn't heard that, but I like it. I actually considered suggesting Verbal Kint/Keyser Soze, but just like that (snap) it was gone...
Our friend John almost worked on Seven, but finally did work on a Spacey film with his role in Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. (I still take some quiet pleasure at being 2 degrees from Kevin Bacon, Real World, even IF BaftaBabe is too, Film World.) |
Edited by - w22dheartlivie on 12/30/2006 03:05:57 |
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duh 
"catpurrs"
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Posted - 12/30/2006 : 04:09:06
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Vincent D'nofrio as the alien in Men In Black, pulling the loose skin of Edgar up tighter around his head, "There! Is that better?"
I also 'liked' Brad Pitt as the murderous Early Grayce in Kalifornia, when he laughingly snarled, "Dipshit!"
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 12/30/2006 : 09:44:01
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
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(I still take some quiet pleasure at being 2 degrees from Kevin Bacon, Real World, even IF BaftaBabe is too, Film World.)
Actually, I'm one degree in the Meat World, because when I was London Editor of Film Journal International I had the great privilege to interview him [and Kyra] after a screening of The Woodsman.
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redPen
"Because I said so!"
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Posted - 12/30/2006 : 09:54:08
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That's great, Baf, but what does an interview have to do with beef?
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 12/30/2006 : 10:18:43
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Originally posted by redPen
That's great, Baf, but what does an interview have to do with beef?
Meat World = Real World 
Hey - I didn't invent it, it's a cyberspace kinda thang 
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GHcool
"Forever a curious character."
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Posted - 12/30/2006 : 20:53:03
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All the villains from Pinocchio. Honest John, Stromboli, Monstro, Lampwick, and the fearsome white-haired Coachman that brings the boys to Pleasure Island.
"They never come back... as BOYS!" |
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w22dheartlivie
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 01:47:34
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
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(I still take some quiet pleasure at being 2 degrees from Kevin Bacon, Real World, even IF BaftaBabe is too, Film World.)
Actually, I'm one degree in the Meat World, because when I was London Editor of Film Journal International I had the great privilege to interview him [and Kyra] after a screening of The Woodsman.
Quite cool. And The Woodsman - I thought was a great film. Kevin Bacon takes risks and I admire that. At some point, he's got to win an Oscar (I'm hoping)! |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 07:42:28
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redPen
"Because I said so!"
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 08:37:30
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Great line, Choc, but the actual line is:
"I'll get you, my pretty... and your little dog, too!"
(After all, why would the Wicked Witch of the West bother to remember a cute little terrier's name, anyway?) 
Love,
The Irritating Editor
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 12/31/2006 : 09:09:45
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Originally posted by redPen
Great line, Choc, but the actual line is:
"I'll get you, my pretty... and your little dog, too!"
(After all, why would the Wicked Witch of the West bother to remember a cute little terrier's name, anyway?)
Love,
The Irritating Editor
Yeah, that's it. Thanks!
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Beanmimo
"August review site"
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Posted - 01/03/2007 : 13:47:04
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Not quite my favourite villan or a very evil line but it is said with such sincerity that it is funny and menacing at the same time.
Midnight Run
Jimmy Serrano: You and that other dummy better start getting more personally involved in your work, or I'm gonna stab you through the heart with a fuckin' pencil. Do you understand me?
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 01/03/2007 : 15:30:23
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
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(I still take some quiet pleasure at being 2 degrees from Kevin Bacon, Real World, even IF BaftaBabe is too, Film World.)
Actually, I'm one degree in the Meat World, because when I was London Editor of Film Journal International I had the great privilege to interview him [and Kyra] after a screening of The Woodsman.
Quite cool. And The Woodsman - I thought was a great film. Kevin Bacon takes risks and I admire that. At some point, he's got to win an Oscar (I'm hoping)!
I totally agree ... but it seems several of Bacon's choices don't get the attention they deserve. Such as Where the Truth Lies which works on so many levels. I'm sure both these films will feature in restrospective tribute screenings for decades.
As for evil lines, how's about Bela Lugosi's Count Dracula in the 1931 version: "There are far worse things awaiting man than death." Creepy or what?!!
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