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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"

Posted - 22/01/2009 :  14:50:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And they suck so hard I can't even bear to list them.

ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Israel

Posted - 22/01/2009 :  14:56:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MisterBadIdea

And they suck so hard I can't even bear to list them.



Why? There are so few of them. It's like they took maybe 8 films and distributed the nominations among them.

(Except for the Foreign Language category. [Insert here a whole bunch of those crossed finger similies for Waltz with Bashir])
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damalc 
"last watched: Sausage Party"

Posted - 22/01/2009 :  17:05:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no Best Foreign Film nomination for "Let the Right One In" boooooo!
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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

United Kingdom

Posted - 22/01/2009 :  17:15:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad to see "Waltz with Bashir" and "Man on Wire" got nods - all the rest was pretty well predictable, and like MBI said, more than a little boring. Looking forward to seeing "Milk", "Doubt" and "Benjamin Button" to see how deserving they are of their slew of nominations.

On the negative: Slumdog doesn't deserve 10 noms, but will probably pick up a few from worthier competitors just because it's "feel good" (see "Chicago"). Heath's nomination was a dead cert, excuse the pun. Sorry that Kristen Scott Thomas didn't get one.
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"

Posted - 22/01/2009 :  22:03:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have to say, I guess I was spoiled by "The Departed" and "No Country for Old Men" winning back to back. But these Oscar nominations may be the worst since '84. I haven't seen a lot of them, and I may change my tune once I watch more, but Jesus, think of last year's Best Picture nominees. Not only did they have "No Country" and "There Will Be Blood," they had the surpisingly complex "Atonement," the surprisingly complex last half of "Juno" and the not-complex-but-at-least-could-fake-it "Michael Clayton."

This year's nominees are middlebrow straight down the line, to a one. Again, I may change my tune, but I don't see much that's dark or challenging in any of them. In any other year, "Slumdog Millionaire" would be the dark horse aw-it's-cute fifth pick like "Little Miss Sunshine." This year it's the frontrunner, which is appalling. It's like seeing the Academy go wild for "The Karate Kid," which for the record is a much better film than "Slumdog Millionaire."
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

New Zealand

Posted - 22/01/2009 :  23:20:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MisterBadIdea

But these Oscar nominations may be the worst since '84.
Some years the Oscars go to "pretty good" films because the best film(s) of the year were "pretty good" rather than brilliant. And of course it goes without saying that some other year a brilliant movie may miss out if there was something even better made that year. C'est la vie...
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SixFourian 
"Four ever European"

The European Union

Posted - 22/01/2009 :  23:22:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Still, at least every film nominated in every category this year is far better than the lamentable There Will Be Blood.
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"

Posted - 22/01/2009 :  23:28:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At least they're not La Vie en Rose!
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GHcool 
"Forever a curious character."

Los Angeles, CA, USA

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  07:23:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Best Picture
My pick: Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Wall E

Best Actor
My pick: Sean Penn, Milk
Overrated: Brad Pitt, Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges

Best Supporting Actor
My pick: Heath Ledger, Dark Knight
Overrated: Robert Downey Jr, Tropic Thunder
Overlooked: Richard Jenkins, Burn After Reading

Best Director
My pick: Danny Boyle, Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: David Fincher, Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Christopher Nolan, Dark Knight

Best Original Screenplay
My pick: Wall E
Overrated: In Bruges
Overlooked: Leatherheads

Best Adapted Screenplay
My pick: Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: Benjamin Button
Overlooked: What Just Happened

Best Cinematography
My pick: Dark Knight
Overrated: Benjamin Button
Overlooked: The Fall

Best Film Editing
My pick: Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Tell No One

Best Visual Effects
My pick: Dark Knight
Overrated: Iron Man
Overlooked: Wanted

Best Score
My pick: Wall E
Overrated: Milk
Overlooked: Waltz With Bashir

Best Sound Mixing and Editing
My pick: Wall E
Overrated: Wanted
Overlooked: Waltz With Bashir

Judging by my list, I'd say the most overlooked film of the year was Waltz With Bashir, the most accomplished film of the year was Slumdog Millionaire, and the most overrated film of the year was (without any doubt) The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
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SixFourian 
"Four ever European"

The European Union

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  07:47:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agreed about The Fall. Tell No One wasn't from last year -- are the rules different for the foreign category?

Edited by - SixFourian on 24/01/2009 08:59:12
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  08:37:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

Best Picture
My pick: Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Wall E

Best Actor
My pick: Sean Penn, Milk
Overrated: Brad Pitt, Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges

Best Supporting Actor
My pick: Heath Ledger, Dark Knight
Overrated: Robert Downey Jr, Tropic Thunder
Overlooked: Richard Jenkins, Burn After Reading

Best Director
My pick: Danny Boyle, Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: David Fincher, Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Christopher Nolan, Dark Knight

Best Original Screenplay
My pick: Wall E
Overrated: In Bruges
Overlooked: Leatherheads

Best Adapted Screenplay
My pick: Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: Benjamin Button
Overlooked: What Just Happened

Best Cinematography
My pick: Dark Knight
Overrated: Benjamin Button
Overlooked: The Fall

Best Film Editing
My pick: Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Tell No One

Best Visual Effects
My pick: Dark Knight
Overrated: Iron Man
Overlooked: Wanted

Best Score
My pick: Wall E
Overrated: Milk
Overlooked: Waltz With Bashir

Best Sound Mixing and Editing
My pick: Wall E
Overrated: Wanted
Overlooked: Waltz With Bashir

Judging by my list, I'd say the most overlooked film of the year was Waltz With Bashir, the most accomplished film of the year was Slumdog Millionaire, and the most overrated film of the year was (without any doubt) The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.



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MOST OVERLOOKED GENDER - ACTRESSES


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GHcool 
"Forever a curious character."

Los Angeles, CA, USA

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  19:36:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

Agreed about The Fall. Tell No One wasn't from last year -- are the rules different for the foreign category?



The rules go by release date in Los Angeles. Tell No One was released this summer in Los Angeles and was a superbly edited film. The editor was Herve de Luze, who also edited The Pianist and Oliver Twist for Roman Polanski. The story was convoluted but the editor managed to keep the viewer following it most of the way through. The movie also deals with flashbacks, montages, chase sequences, dynamic dialogue sequences, several plot lines going at once, etc.

Benjamin Button was certainly a well cut film as well, and had its own set of unique challenges, but editing Tell No One must have been grueling and the editor pulled it off brilliantly.
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GHcool 
"Forever a curious character."

Los Angeles, CA, USA

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  19:40:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe

quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

Best Picture
My pick: Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Wall E

Best Actor
My pick: Sean Penn, Milk
Overrated: Brad Pitt, Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Brendan Gleeson, In Bruges

Best Supporting Actor
My pick: Heath Ledger, Dark Knight
Overrated: Robert Downey Jr, Tropic Thunder
Overlooked: Richard Jenkins, Burn After Reading

Best Director
My pick: Danny Boyle, Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: David Fincher, Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Christopher Nolan, Dark Knight

Best Original Screenplay
My pick: Wall E
Overrated: In Bruges
Overlooked: Leatherheads

Best Adapted Screenplay
My pick: Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: Benjamin Button
Overlooked: What Just Happened

Best Cinematography
My pick: Dark Knight
Overrated: Benjamin Button
Overlooked: The Fall

Best Film Editing
My pick: Slumdog Millionaire
Overrated: Benjamin Button
Overlooked: Tell No One

Best Visual Effects
My pick: Dark Knight
Overrated: Iron Man
Overlooked: Wanted

Best Score
My pick: Wall E
Overrated: Milk
Overlooked: Waltz With Bashir

Best Sound Mixing and Editing
My pick: Wall E
Overrated: Wanted
Overlooked: Waltz With Bashir

Judging by my list, I'd say the most overlooked film of the year was Waltz With Bashir, the most accomplished film of the year was Slumdog Millionaire, and the most overrated film of the year was (without any doubt) The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.



RE YOUR LIST
MOST OVERLOOKED GENDER - ACTRESSES






I didn't comment on the actresses because I had only seen one of the nominated films for Best Actress (The Reader) and two of the nominated films for Best Supporting Actress (Vicky Cristina Barcelona and Benjamin Button). I thought it would be unfair to choose a favorite without at least having seen Doubt.
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SixFourian 
"Four ever European"

The European Union

Posted - 24/01/2009 :  19:42:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How bizarre about Tell No One. It was first shown in 2006, and released in 2007 here.

Edited by - SixFourian on 24/01/2009 19:50:10
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Israel

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  12:31:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We saw Waltz with Bashir last night.

Oh... My... God!

What an amazing movie.

I've rated it 6/5 here. I'm willing to say it was certainly the best Israeli film I've ever seen - if not one of the best movies from anywhere. What non-Israelis watching this with translations won't get is how totally natural and unscripted the dialogue is. I'm also not sure you'll get the humour included - some of which are "in-jokes" that only someone who lives here would truly get.

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SixFourian 
"Four ever European"

The European Union

Posted - 25/01/2009 :  23:32:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've just noticed that Changeling wasn't nominated for Best Picture or anything other than Best Actress or the aesthetic ones. That doesn't seem fair at all, so I'm going to bump Jolie up to me my preference for the Oscar.
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