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Ali Posted - 11/14/2007 : 15:00:25

Here is a great article on the writers strike. Thoughts? Feelings?
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randall Posted - 12/27/2007 : 01:48:55
quote:
Originally posted by Little Old Lady from Dubuque

As the old saying goes "as useless as a writer on a film set"



Or, as my earlier post put it about an apocryphal starlet, "She was so stupid, she slept with the writer."

Now we are beginning to understand why these highly paid writers have a union in the first place.
Little Old Lady from Dubuque Posted - 12/27/2007 : 01:34:50
As the old saying goes "as useless as a writer on a film set"

In the theater, the writer is primary (if it ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage") ... but in Hollywood, writing seems to be by committee, and committees are generally powerless to do much of anything.

Whippersnapper. Posted - 12/06/2007 : 10:28:31


No SAL 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or distorted information.





randall Posted - 12/05/2007 : 20:13:48
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by turrell

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

(note the correct inclusion of the apostrophe, unlike the American one - call themselves writers?! )


You really are compelled to look for errors which aren't really errors. Why must the possessive form apply? Rather than the guild belonging to the writers why can't it be a guild of writers as the punctuation suggests? SAG uses the same construct - correctly.

Why not spend your time looking for what's right in the world and not what's wrong?

There is a difference between noticing an obvious and unambiguous error and looking for it. It definitely is wrong. To check, you only need to see whether a non-standard plural (or equivalent, in the case of second of my following examples) takes the possessive or not:

Would Children Guild of America be a (realistically) possible name? No, it would have to be Children's Guild of America.

People Guild of America? No, People's.

I hope the irony has not been lost on you that you spent your time 'correcting' me, though I have made no error here whereas the Guild has.


There is no grammatical error in the term Writers Guild of America. Nor People Guild of America, for that matter.
Sal[Au]pian Posted - 11/28/2007 : 15:24:11
quote:
Originally posted by turrell

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

(note the correct inclusion of the apostrophe, unlike the American one - call themselves writers?! )


You really are compelled to look for errors which aren't really errors. Why must the possessive form apply? Rather than the guild belonging to the writers why can't it be a guild of writers as the punctuation suggests? SAG uses the same construct - correctly.

Why not spend your time looking for what's right in the world and not what's wrong?

There is a difference between noticing an obvious and unambiguous error and looking for it. It definitely is wrong. To check, you only need to see whether a non-standard plural (or equivalent, in the case of second of my following examples) takes the possessive or not:

Would Children Guild of America be a (realistically) possible name? No, it would have to be Children's Guild of America.

People Guild of America? No, People's.

I hope the irony has not been lost on you that you spent your time 'correcting' me, though I have made no error here whereas the Guild has.
Wheelz Posted - 11/28/2007 : 15:00:19
quote:
Originally posted by Ali


24 has 12 episodes in the can. Fox is very worried, however, that they won't be able to finish the remaining 12 episodes in time for spring. The gossip round town is that the network might show the first 12 hours this spring, and the remaining 12 in the autumn.


I guess that's the smartest move from a strictly business perspective -- to Randall's point, they'd be offering new drama while everyone else is trotting out reruns and more and more reality crap.

But again, as a fan of the show, I hope they don't do this. It messes with the show's overall concept, and in the end they may lose viewers in the second half of the split "season."

(I suppose I could always TiVo the first 12 and save them, but I doubt I'd have the discipline NOT to watch them until the rest of the season begins! )
turrell Posted - 11/28/2007 : 14:42:58
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

(note the correct inclusion of the apostrophe, unlike the American one - call themselves writers?! )



You really are compelled to look for errors which aren't really errors. Why must the possessive form apply? Rather than the guild belonging to the writers why can't it be a guild of writers as the punctuation suggests? SAG uses the same construct - correctly.

Why not spend your time looking for what's right in the world and not what's wrong?
BaftaBaby Posted - 11/28/2007 : 09:49:09
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

On the idea of using talent from abroad, in the Guardian from the Saturday before last someone from the Writers' Guild of Great Britain (note the correct inclusion of the apostrophe, unlike the American one - call themselves writers?! ) said that in the 1988 strike they advised their members not to take work that would otherwise have gone to the strikers, and that they would do the same this time.



Which, I guess, means that Frederick Forsyth will get lotsa work!


Sal[Au]pian Posted - 11/28/2007 : 09:28:11
On the idea of using talent from abroad, in the Guardian from the Saturday before last someone from the Writers' Guild of Great Britain (note the correct inclusion of the apostrophe, unlike the American one - call themselves writers?! ) said that in the 1988 strike they advised their members not to take work that would otherwise have gone to the strikers, and that they would do the same this time.
Ali Posted - 11/28/2007 : 09:05:09

24 has 12 episodes in the can. Fox is very worried, however, that they won't be able to finish the remaining 12 episodes in time for spring. The gossip round town is that the network might show the first 12 hours this spring, and the remaining 12 in the autumn.
randall Posted - 11/27/2007 : 23:08:39
quote:
Originally posted by Wheelz

quote:
Originally posted by Randall

quote:
Originally posted by Ali


As for Lost, the situation can turn out to be dire. They managed to complete 8 episodes before the strike. However, if the strike lasts for over three months, there is a chance Bad Robot won't be able to finish the remaining eight, in which case, the word round the campfire is that ABC might refrain from showing the 8 episodes already in the can, and, instead, opt to run them together with next season's sixteen episodes in a batch of twenty-four starting in February 2009.



Hmmm. If I were ABC and the strike did in fact wear on, I'd get those eight on the air in February 2008, just as planned. They would then represent the only fresh scripted TV around. Not to mention the fact that if they waited, the hiatus would then be stretched to nearly two years.

This might indeed make business sense for the network, but as a fan of the show I say... "Nah."

I watch Lost and I like Lost, but my world won't end if I can't see any new eps until 2009. In fact, I think I'd feel more cheated by seeing a third of a season that ends abruptly than having to wait for a complete season.



The point is that LOST had already planned to stockpile episodes against a February air-date [and reduce each successive season to 16]. Even if you strike everything else, LOST can proceed as planned in February [at least from the viewer's perspective], and it will still be the only game in town. These eps [I don't know whether it's eight, but it's undoubtedly at least five] are in the can and ready to roll tomorrow. If the strike drags on, these will be the only fish fresh enough to be served! ABC would be nuts not to air them as planned.
turrell Posted - 11/27/2007 : 21:10:06
Good point Wheelz - 24 is unique in that the story is so wrapped around the single season - the previews for this season look really great.
Wheelz Posted - 11/27/2007 : 19:43:56
quote:
Originally posted by Randall

quote:
Originally posted by Ali


As for Lost, the situation can turn out to be dire. They managed to complete 8 episodes before the strike. However, if the strike lasts for over three months, there is a chance Bad Robot won't be able to finish the remaining eight, in which case, the word round the campfire is that ABC might refrain from showing the 8 episodes already in the can, and, instead, opt to run them together with next season's sixteen episodes in a batch of twenty-four starting in February 2009.



Hmmm. If I were ABC and the strike did in fact wear on, I'd get those eight on the air in February 2008, just as planned. They would then represent the only fresh scripted TV around. Not to mention the fact that if they waited, the hiatus would then be stretched to nearly two years.

This might indeed make business sense for the network, but as a fan of the show I say... "Nah."

I watch Lost and I like Lost, but my world won't end if I can't see any new eps until 2009. In fact, I think I'd feel more cheated by seeing a third of a season that ends abruptly than having to wait for a complete season.

As for 24, I'd read that they have something like 12 shows in the can, but FOX has vowed not to start airing them until they can be assured of showing all 24 episodes consecutively. Personally, I think that's entirely the right decision creatively.
Downtown Posted - 11/27/2007 : 18:14:13
Oh yeah. So what plot thread was I waiting for?

Y'see? They've already been off the air too long!
RockGolf Posted - 11/27/2007 : 18:01:57
quote:
Originally posted by 11-0

[quote]Originally posted by Ali
Too late to save this week's Boston Legal, which is extra-disappointing for me because it seems that's the show ABC always preempts for some worthless "special." There won't be any new episodes until at least next week, I need to find out what's going to happen with Denny Crane's fat discrimination lawsuit!



I thought that was dismissed last week, effectively ending the case.

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