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turrell 
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 Posted - 11/27/2007 : 15:06:39
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The point is not that there are not good writers outside of the US - its that they're not the same writers, and sure there is turnover in writing teams but usually a little at a time and good shows usually have the one or two strong voices in the process that help shape the style of the show.
Ali- that would suck aboiut Lost - I was alreadyt dreading the long wait for the season to begin - it would become almost Sopranoesque with a two year hiatus. I asssume 24 also falls in this category.
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Ali
"Those aren't pillows."
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 15:22:43
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Yep. 24 would also be on the same boat.
A few news outlets are reporting that the strike is basically over. We'll have to wait a few days to see how accurate their sources are.
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 17:01:21
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Originally posted by Ali
Yep. 24 would also be on the same boat.
A few news outlets are reporting that the strike is basically over. We'll have to wait a few days to see how accurate their sources are.
Too late to save this week's Boston Legal, which is extra-disappointing for me because it seems that's the show ABC always preempts for some worthless "special." There won't be any new episodes until at least next week, I need to find out what's going to happen with Denny Crane's fat discrimination lawsuit!
But the reality show prediction came true...it's a special two hour Dancing With The Stars tonight instead of Boston Legal. Woopie. |
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randall 
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 17:09:54
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Originally posted by Ali
As for Lost, the situation can turn out to be dire. They managed to complete 8 episodes before the strike. However, if the strike lasts for over three months, there is a chance Bad Robot won't be able to finish the remaining eight, in which case, the word round the campfire is that ABC might refrain from showing the 8 episodes already in the can, and, instead, opt to run them together with next season's sixteen episodes in a batch of twenty-four starting in February 2009.
Hmmm. If I were ABC and the strike did in fact wear on, I'd get those eight on the air in February 2008, just as planned. They would then represent the only fresh scripted TV around. Not to mention the fact that if they waited, the hiatus would then be stretched to nearly two years. |
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randall
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 17:15:42
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Originally posted by 8enj clews
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Originally posted by Randall
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At great risk of potentially asking a stupid question here...
If the strike is by the WGA, what is there stopping film and TV producers from shipping their writing requirements out to other countries where the writers *aren't* striking?
Also, is it really true this will mean an increase in reality TV shows? As unlikely as it might seem, I still see writing credits for these too 
What Turrell said, but also, you want *good* writers. If these guys can't work it out soon, late-night talk shows like Leno and Letterman may come back without writers -- in the Internet age, they might even ask for jokes from the vast unwashed [as the NY Times is currently doing for its late-nite-comic "Laugh Lines" column] -- and just do the spontaneous unscripted interviews with people who are dying to plug their movies.
I'm sure I'm reading this wrong, but I'd like to stress there are good writers outside of the US 
Of course there are plenty of good writers who don't belong to WGA. But anybody who crosses the picket line, no matter what color's on their passport, is a strikebreaker. And once it gets settled, scabs will find it difficult to get a job in Hollywood.
These American productions may also have contractual stipulations to hire only WGA writers. You could pick up Broadway stagehands off the street, for example, but the theater owners are bound by a contract that requires union labor. |
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RockGolf
"1500+ reviews. 1 joke."
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 18:01:57
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Originally posted by 11-0
[quote]Originally posted by Ali
Too late to save this week's Boston Legal, which is extra-disappointing for me because it seems that's the show ABC always preempts for some worthless "special." There won't be any new episodes until at least next week, I need to find out what's going to happen with Denny Crane's fat discrimination lawsuit!
I thought that was dismissed last week, effectively ending the case. |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 18:14:13
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Oh yeah. So what plot thread was I waiting for?
Y'see? They've already been off the air too long! |
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Wheelz 
"FWFR%u2019ing like it%u2019s 1999"
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 19:43:56
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Originally posted by Randall
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Originally posted by Ali
As for Lost, the situation can turn out to be dire. They managed to complete 8 episodes before the strike. However, if the strike lasts for over three months, there is a chance Bad Robot won't be able to finish the remaining eight, in which case, the word round the campfire is that ABC might refrain from showing the 8 episodes already in the can, and, instead, opt to run them together with next season's sixteen episodes in a batch of twenty-four starting in February 2009.
Hmmm. If I were ABC and the strike did in fact wear on, I'd get those eight on the air in February 2008, just as planned. They would then represent the only fresh scripted TV around. Not to mention the fact that if they waited, the hiatus would then be stretched to nearly two years.
This might indeed make business sense for the network, but as a fan of the show I say... "Nah."
I watch Lost and I like Lost, but my world won't end if I can't see any new eps until 2009. In fact, I think I'd feel more cheated by seeing a third of a season that ends abruptly than having to wait for a complete season.
As for 24, I'd read that they have something like 12 shows in the can, but FOX has vowed not to start airing them until they can be assured of showing all 24 episodes consecutively. Personally, I think that's entirely the right decision creatively. |
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turrell
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 21:10:06
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| Good point Wheelz - 24 is unique in that the story is so wrapped around the single season - the previews for this season look really great. |
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randall
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 23:08:39
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Originally posted by Wheelz
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Originally posted by Randall
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Originally posted by Ali
As for Lost, the situation can turn out to be dire. They managed to complete 8 episodes before the strike. However, if the strike lasts for over three months, there is a chance Bad Robot won't be able to finish the remaining eight, in which case, the word round the campfire is that ABC might refrain from showing the 8 episodes already in the can, and, instead, opt to run them together with next season's sixteen episodes in a batch of twenty-four starting in February 2009.
Hmmm. If I were ABC and the strike did in fact wear on, I'd get those eight on the air in February 2008, just as planned. They would then represent the only fresh scripted TV around. Not to mention the fact that if they waited, the hiatus would then be stretched to nearly two years.
This might indeed make business sense for the network, but as a fan of the show I say... "Nah."
I watch Lost and I like Lost, but my world won't end if I can't see any new eps until 2009. In fact, I think I'd feel more cheated by seeing a third of a season that ends abruptly than having to wait for a complete season.
The point is that LOST had already planned to stockpile episodes against a February air-date [and reduce each successive season to 16]. Even if you strike everything else, LOST can proceed as planned in February [at least from the viewer's perspective], and it will still be the only game in town. These eps [I don't know whether it's eight, but it's undoubtedly at least five] are in the can and ready to roll tomorrow. If the strike drags on, these will be the only fish fresh enough to be served! ABC would be nuts not to air them as planned. |
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Ali
"Those aren't pillows."
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Posted - 11/28/2007 : 09:05:09
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24 has 12 episodes in the can. Fox is very worried, however, that they won't be able to finish the remaining 12 episodes in time for spring. The gossip round town is that the network might show the first 12 hours this spring, and the remaining 12 in the autumn.
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 11/28/2007 : 09:28:11
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On the idea of using talent from abroad, in the Guardian from the Saturday before last someone from the Writers' Guild of Great Britain (note the correct inclusion of the apostrophe, unlike the American one - call themselves writers?!  ) said that in the 1988 strike they advised their members not to take work that would otherwise have gone to the strikers, and that they would do the same this time. |
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 11/28/2007 : 09:49:09
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Originally posted by Salopian
On the idea of using talent from abroad, in the Guardian from the Saturday before last someone from the Writers' Guild of Great Britain (note the correct inclusion of the apostrophe, unlike the American one - call themselves writers?! ) said that in the 1988 strike they advised their members not to take work that would otherwise have gone to the strikers, and that they would do the same this time.
Which, I guess, means that Frederick Forsyth will get lotsa work!
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turrell
"Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh "
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Posted - 11/28/2007 : 14:42:58
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Originally posted by Salopian
(note the correct inclusion of the apostrophe, unlike the American one - call themselves writers?! )
You really are compelled to look for errors which aren't really errors. Why must the possessive form apply? Rather than the guild belonging to the writers why can't it be a guild of writers as the punctuation suggests? SAG uses the same construct - correctly.
Why not spend your time looking for what's right in the world and not what's wrong? |
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Wheelz
"FWFR%u2019ing like it%u2019s 1999"
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Posted - 11/28/2007 : 15:00:19
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Originally posted by Ali
24 has 12 episodes in the can. Fox is very worried, however, that they won't be able to finish the remaining 12 episodes in time for spring. The gossip round town is that the network might show the first 12 hours this spring, and the remaining 12 in the autumn.
I guess that's the smartest move from a strictly business perspective -- to Randall's point, they'd be offering new drama while everyone else is trotting out reruns and more and more reality crap.
But again, as a fan of the show, I hope they don't do this. It messes with the show's overall concept, and in the end they may lose viewers in the second half of the split "season."
(I suppose I could always TiVo the first 12 and save them, but I doubt I'd have the discipline NOT to watch them until the rest of the season begins!  ) |
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