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w22dheartlivie 
"Kitty Lover"
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 Posted - 08/08/2008 : 03:21:10
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| As my oft rejected review for Spellbound says "Hukt on fonix werx." |
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Ali 
"Those aren't pillows."
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 09:48:07
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I am a stickler for rules, grammatical or otherwise, and/or tradition, but I am astonished by most of the reactions in this thread (apart from Salopian's [and Whippersnapper's], whose point(s), and tone, I would mirror were I to react to the news in question). The respective indignance displayed would mean more to me if it weren't so covered in crap.
I don't want to offend anyone, so I will keep most of my views to myself, but, as far as I am concerned, a person relinquishes the right to comment on grammar, spelling, or style, the moment they resort to using smileys. Salopian excluded. Why? Because, I say so, bitches.
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 09:58:36
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So... you have to allow my opinion, don't you? Because I NEVER use smilies or emoticons. Right!
(I always knew my refusing to use those stupid things would come in handy some day.) |
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benj clews 
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 10:12:59
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Originally posted by Ali
I don't want to offend anyone, so I will keep most of my views to myself, but, as far as I am concerned, a person relinquishes the right to comment on grammar, spelling, or style, the moment they resort to using smileys.
I say  to that! |
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 10:33:58
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Originally posted by Ali
I don't want to offend anyone, so I will keep most of my views to myself, but, as far as I am concerned, a person relinquishes the right to comment on grammar, spelling, or style, the moment they resort to using smileys.
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 10:40:20
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Yeah, I feel horribly sloppy when I use smileys, but they're just such a safety net -- surprisingly (given the nature of the site), some people on here mistake people's tone quite often. However, it's of course my own failing if I am unable to get that across to them with words.  ( ( (...))) |
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 11:30:22
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Originally posted by Ali
I am a stickler
Yeah, I notice how you're always eager to stickle it in wherever you can!   
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 11:52:00
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Originally posted by Ali
I am a stickler for... tradition
Would you prefer the Ottoman Turkish alphabet to have been kept then? I have always thought that if I were Turkish I would, but I've just been reading about it (on Wikipedia, of course, so it must be true) and it does seem as though it was extraordinarily deficient for Turkish's very satisfying vowel system. I think I'd still've kept it anyway, but if I hadn't I think I would have made a few different Latin letter choices. |
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 13:14:31
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Originally posted by Ali
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w22dheartlivie
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 17:06:46
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Originally posted by Ali
The respective indignance displayed would mean more to me if it weren't so covered in crap.
It isn't so much crap when one observes insistent school counselors and systems pressuring parents into taking children for examinations and medications for ADD/ADHD when in the majority of cases, it's not the child's problem. In my state, the emphasis in education has shifted notably over the last few years with the advent of skills testing. The local school spends the first month of school each year in remedial review to bolster what already should have been learned vocabulary and math skills, all in order to pass a state administered test that determines funding. Children who don't cluster in the mid-range are shoved off into further remedial classes several hours a week, once again, to learn what already has been covered, and geared toward passing those tests, not in actually learning. There are no programs for what are actually gifted students who also fall through educational cracks. Bored and distracted, they also don't cluster in the mid-range, so their needs aren't being met. A case in point is my goddaughter's oldest son, who sports an IQ of 147, but is routinely given lower marks because he does his math work in his head and doesn't understand why he has been accused of copying. No matter that the boy can do multiple digit multiplication and long division in his head.
The local library reports that even as school enrollment expands each year, the number of library cards decline. I've seen the result of parents substituting television and gameboys for quality interaction and reading. Both the boys who I tutored that year made major leaps once some study skills were learned, the cable was disconnected and Nintendo time was contingent on good grades. They aren't ADD, they've just never been required to learn focus. There's nothing elitist in saying that a university should require excellence, or that education has become too focused on outcome and not process. Technology does have its drawbacks.
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 17:33:13
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Yup, it's the same here -- testing, testing, testing and rigidity of what is taught. The upside is that bad teachers can now be less negligent than they once could, but that's not really a great way to have to look at the education system -- most teachers are good.
I much preferred how it was when I was at primary school. Apart from some maths., there was no teaching within dry subject boundaries -- everything was done within 'topics' (e.g. the Romans) and we also had a lot of autonomy as to which topic to be getting on with. Now they have literacy hour and numeracy hour all the way through primary school -- it would have driven me demented. |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 18:04:13
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| I've just noticed that the 'academic' is at Buckinghamshire New University. Let's just say that it is not exactly Harvard. |
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Wheelz
"FWFR%u2019ing like it%u2019s 1999"
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 19:27:05
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Originally posted by R o � k G 0 1 f
Odd man out here.
I work at a place where probably 60=75% of the people did not speak English as a first language. And I'm in an industry where precision of words is critical - information technology. Most correspondence is better than you might expect from a spelling or grammar viewpoint, but occasionally, there are minor spelling errors. If I can unquestionably determine the writer's intent from the context, I'm frankly not that worried about text that doesn't face the public.
I don't necessarily disagree with you here. If somebody, say, transposes some i's and e's in a narrowly-circulated e-mail or an internet message board, who cares? That's certainly nothing to make a big deal about.
But some of the examples in this article -- "opertunity", "ignor", "speach", "twelth" -- border on the ridiculous. If I see a job application or a business letter with spelling that bad (and sometimes I do), frankly I can't help but call the author's overall intelligence into question, and in turn will be less receptive to the intended message.
Students are being done a disservice if they're going through school being told that this is OK. We're sending a generation out into the world looking like a bunch of idiots. |
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 19:42:56
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Originally posted by Wheelz
We're sending a generation out into the world looking like a bunch of idiots.
Well - looks aren't everything!
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w22dheartlivie
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 08/08/2008 : 20:33:59
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
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Originally posted by Wheelz
We're sending a generation out into the world looking like a bunch of idiots.
Well - looks aren't everything!
As can be attested by the overwhelming and continued career success of this guy.
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Oh NO! 'They' are winning!!!
