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GHcool
"Forever a curious character."

Posted - 05/15/2009 : 19:20:40

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

If he's an ethically minded person then you could use this argument, which is why I don't use it since I don't care about the legal or health issues (although it also doesn't do a lot for me compared to what it seems to for some others)... Assuming that it has been imported from South America then the toll of human misery involved in its production is extremely high. I think I may have mentioned before how strange I find it that so many middle-class liberals are scrupulous about buying fair trade/local/organic food etc. but happily consume drugs from any old source.

I don't know how he gets the stuff, but I'm guessing some idiot is growing it somewhere locally. Even if it wasn't, my roommate doesn't seem like the type that would respond to that kind of argument.

Last night I smelled it again in the living room, but it wasn't as overpowering and headache/nausea inducing as it was the fist time.

aahaa, muahaha
"Optimistic altruist, incurable romantic"

Posted - 05/15/2009 : 23:54:17

If he has been a room mate for over a year and half but this problem has just started, may be he has just started getting addicted to the weed. Probably you can tell him that it is tough to give it up once he is fully addicted and that may be he should try and give it up now.

BiggerBoat
"Pass me the harpoon"

Posted - 05/16/2009 : 00:40:39

quote:
Originally posted by aahaa, muahaha

If he has been a room mate for over a year and half but this problem has just started, may be he has just started getting addicted to the weed. Probably you can tell him that it is tough to give it up once he is fully addicted and that may be he should try and give it up now.

It's unlikely that he is "addicted" to it as it doesn't have the same tolerance/craving symptoms that some drugs have. I have known some people to have a psychological dependency on it but this is very different to a physiological dependence. Most people I know who have decided to quit have done so without any kind of cold turkey or cravings - it simply isn't that kind of drug.

He sounds like a casual user who likes to smoke a bit whilst playing a few video games. My best suggestion is that he buys a smokeless ashtray so that you don't have to put up with the strong smell GH, and refrains from doing while you're there.

Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 05/16/2009 : 01:06:52

Agreed, it's not 'addictive' but can be habit forming. It's an easy habit to break when one wants a change from being perpetually stoned.

GHcool
"Forever a curious character."

Posted - 05/16/2009 : 06:30:30

Its 10:30 at night. I just came home after a long day at work and after a dinner at my uncle's family (who I don't really like) and I just came to the apartment and it REEKS! I can even smell it in my room and its giving me a headache!

I told him to knock it off and he just said, "OK I'll light another incense." I would say he's being "insensitive" to my wishes!

Edited by - GHcool on 05/16/2009 06:32:27

Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 05/16/2009 : 07:36:50

You need to remove this guy from your life ASAP for your own well-being. This will be causing a lot of stress, and stress is generally bad for your health.

duh
"catpurrs"

Posted - 05/16/2009 : 08:16:42

quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

I told him to knock it off and he just said, "OK I'll light another incense."

Thereby further reducing the available oxygen.

See, if GH is driven to murder his roomie over this, it will prove that grass causes violence.

Well GH, at least you can use as your defense that your brain was oxygen deprived.

Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 05/16/2009 : 08:30:58

This is what I call a wholly dysfunctional arrangement. It requires termination.

You could even speculate that this slacker subconsciously wants a steel-cap boot up his arse, and that by provoking you (GHC) in this way he's going to get it. And he'll be better off for it.

Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/16/2009 : 17:49:55

Something else to bear in mind is that he is probably seriously depressed from being unemployed and he may well have turned to smoking as a way of blocking thoughts out (not that it's likely a good way of avoiding depression) or filling in the hours.

I agree that you need to end the situation as it is obviously making you unhappy. When does the lease run out? I'd suggest you move out rather than try to get rid of him, unless you really love the place. Moving is a hassle but still easier than evicting someone. I'd also advise you to NOT live with an owner occupier. I've done it twice now and wouldn't do so again. There haven't been any significant problems but in small ways one is made to feel like a second-class flatmate.

GHcool
"Forever a curious character."

Posted - 05/16/2009 : 19:45:09

I woke up this morning and can still smell it (especially in my bathroom). I took a look at the lease. The lease expired in November 2008, but it is unclear what its status is now. I assume we are renting the apartment on a month to month basis, but maybe I should confirm that with the manager.

The lease specifies (in CAPS) that engaging in illegal drug use is grounds for eviction and a breach of contract. I assume that rule also applies after the lease expires. It doesn't say what happens if one lessee is breaching the contract while the other is not, though the contract seems to treat both of us as one entity.

I think I'll speak to my manager about the specifics. However, I don't want to tell him why I have questions yet.

Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/16/2009 : 20:55:13

Definitely move out pronto then. The only issue is any deposit (bond) that you have paid.

MguyX
"X marks the spot"

Posted - 05/17/2009 : 04:05:13

quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

I woke up this morning and can still smell it (especially in my bathroom). I took a look at the lease. The lease expired in November 2008, but it is unclear what its status is now. I assume we are renting the apartment on a month to month basis, but maybe I should confirm that with the manager.

The lease specifies (in CAPS) that engaging in illegal drug use is grounds for eviction and a breach of contract. I assume that rule also applies after the lease expires. It doesn't say what happens if one lessee is breaching the contract while the other is not, though the contract seems to treat both of us as one entity.

I think I'll speak to my manager about the specifics. However, I don't want to tell him why I have questions yet.

At the expiration of any lease -- unless it specifically states otherwise -- you are on a month-to-month basis, but all other terms of the lease continue to apply.

There is no need to speak to your manager about the matter unless you want to have your roommate evicted solely. And the manager may just issue a warning (in which case, your roomie stays, and the relationship between you two may deteriorate further). You are free to move out by giving 30-days notice (check your lease for the specifics on notice). If your roomie moves, you will need to find another pronto, or be prepared to pay the rent all by yourself.