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Downtown Posted - 07/20/2007 : 19:45:43
Someone seems to have really ruined the FWFR page on wiki. It's been chopped to pieces, with huge amounts of information on the voting and submission process - not to mention accolades - completely deleted.

And the worst thing of all is that whomever decided that information had to be removed didn't even bother to proofread what they left behind. It looks like it was written by a third grader.

The last time I checked it (last year), it looked pretty good. I'm not sure who decided they needed to make serious changes to it, but as a general rule you should be adding MORE information to encyclopedias, not LESS.
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w22dheartlivie Posted - 01/15/2008 : 12:57:37
JohnFitzGerald has calmed down a lot from the guy we dealt with last summer. Maybe his wiki-break has helped him. He hasn't done much of any editing since that time. He must have felt compelled to say something after Salopian posted his JFK review. His suggestion for the accolade section seems to be constructive and helpful and he's left it to interested parties to sort it out.
Sal[Au]pian Posted - 01/15/2008 : 11:45:06
I'm not sure that people need to be told some ways in which films have things in common, and in particular to be given two examples of franchises.

I also think that it may not be necessary to list all the sections of the Fourum. I'd prefer to see this in paragraph form, describing the fact that reviews are discussed and promoted, films and film discussed and that there are contests such as...
Sal[Au]pian Posted - 01/15/2008 : 11:34:02
I think that the entry could validly be quite a bit longer, but I agree that that particular sentence is not really essential (and also only theoretical - there are many duplicate accolades).

I haven't read J.F.'s comment yet, as I don't know whether I have the energy to get into a debate again with someone who thinks that G and g are different letters. And I thought he had given up on the Wikipedia 'experiment' anyway!
Sean Posted - 01/14/2008 : 22:25:50
On the whole I agree with him, there is too much irrelevant detail there. E.g., stuff like

Accolades must be unique, however. If two contributors compile identical accolades, either contributor may ask the webmaster to remove one of the two accolades.

The second sentence there is a technical detail about how one fixes something when something goes wrong, and quite irrelevant and uninteresting for anyone other than someone who's already an active site member, in which case that information is obvious. That's akin to a car manufacturer explaining on a promotional brochure for their latest car how you remove the wheelnuts when changing a tyre after getting a puncture.

If I was let loose on that page I'd cut it down a lot more than what JF is planning.
benj clews Posted - 01/14/2008 : 17:26:08
quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

John FitzGerald just responded on the talk page. His proposal for trimming the fat seems reasonable enough, except one small error, which I responded to. I hope others comment on the talk page before we make any further changes.



Not sure if I'm reading it wrong, but it sounds like JF is describing an accolade as a collection of reviews ("In addition to voting, FWFRers may compile sets of their own reviews of films with a commonly defined feature."), which is of course wrong. This might be causing some confusion.

I'd suggest the following:

In addition to voting, FWFRers may compile sets of films with a commonly defined feature.

P.S. Enjoyed the acknowledgement of Salopian's addition. I like this JF guy
GHcool Posted - 01/14/2008 : 17:10:04
John FitzGerald just responded on the talk page. His proposal for trimming the fat seems reasonable enough, except one small error, which I responded to. I hope others comment on the talk page before we make any further changes.
Sal[Au]pian Posted - 01/14/2008 : 10:07:38
quote:
Originally posted by Se�n

The way I just did it.

Thanks.
Sean Posted - 01/13/2008 : 22:46:10
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

Done, although I don't know how long it will last!

How do I get it to link to the film page without having (film) in the visible text?
The way I just did it.
Sal[Au]pian Posted - 01/13/2008 : 19:55:56
Done, although I don't know how long it will last!

How do I get it to link to the film page without having (film) in the visible text?
GHcool Posted - 01/12/2008 : 05:09:38
quote:
Originally posted by benj clews

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

Hilarious! You should send him the link.

Thanks. I was going to, but I thought that might be a bit too mean.



Just stick it on the fwfr wiki page.



Yeah! As an example of a review. LOL.
benj clews Posted - 01/12/2008 : 01:59:21
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

Hilarious! You should send him the link.

Thanks. I was going to, but I thought that might be a bit too mean.



Just stick it on the fwfr wiki page.
Sal[Au]pian Posted - 01/12/2008 : 01:53:23
quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

Hilarious! You should send him the link.

Thanks. I was going to, but I thought that might be a bit too mean.
GHcool Posted - 01/11/2008 : 19:01:00
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

Here's to you, John!



Hilarious! You should send him the link.
aahaa, muahaha Posted - 01/11/2008 : 18:56:34
quote:
Originally posted by Se�n

Wiki is a strange place. I think the kind of person who spends a lot of time writing/editing content there is a very different kind of person to those that hang out at a place like fwfr. In a nutshell, fwfrers are here for fun and 'artistic expression', but Wikipedians are there to ensure that pages remain neutral, clinical descriptions of reality. So you could argue that fwfr is art, Wiki is science.



I have been off FWFR for quite sometime and dunno what all has happened. But, fwiw, I happen to be an administrator on English Wikipedia, albeit inactive there as well. and again, I have over 11000 edits on WP.
Sal[Au]pian Posted - 01/11/2008 : 16:38:49
Here's to you, John!

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