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Montgomery 
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 Posted - 01/19/2007 : 20:48:06
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Since it's awards show time, and the Oscars are yet to come, I thought I'd start a thread.
Here are two Oscar Winners I don't think should have been honored. But, I'm sure there are loads more, so add your faves.
Gwyneth Paltrow for Shakespeare in Love
Angelina Jolie for Girl Interrupted
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 01/19/2007 : 21:13:59
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Originally posted by Montgomery
Here are two Oscar Winners I don't think should have been honored. But, I'm sure there are loads more, so add your faves.
Gwyneth Paltrow for Shakespeare in Love
Angelina Jolie for Girl Interrupted
 No way! I thought they were both deserving!
OK, here's mine:-
Sean Penn for Mystic River - (should have been Bill Murray for Lost in Translation) |
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Montgomery
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Posted - 01/19/2007 : 21:24:59
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Originally posted by Se�n
O] No way! I thought they were both deserving!
OK, here's mine:-
Sean Penn for Mystic River - (should have been Bill Murray for Lost in Translation)
Oscar Worthy? Really? What was so great about what either actress did with those roles? I just thought they were "okay."
I disagree that Sean was not worthy. (OF COURSE, HE SHOULD HAVE WON FOR DEAD MAN WALKING!!!!!) But, I did like Bill Murray in Lost in Translation, too.
EM :)
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Koli 
"Striving lackadaisically for perfection."
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Posted - 01/19/2007 : 21:31:55
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I find this sort of thing really difficult because in order to put forward a suggestion with any confidence I think you have to be able to say that you've seen the film with the unmerited award and another from the same year (and for me that means the others nominated), which is more deserving. I've been back as far as 1970 and in most cases I can't remember enough about at least two of the nominated films to come to a sound conclusion. So, in the absence of exhaustive knowledge I'm going to be bold and intuitive (or arrogant).
In 1993 the Best Actor award went to Tom Hanks for Philadelphia, whereas I'd say that Anthony Hopkins should get an award every time he's nominated; ergo he should have won for The Remains of the Day.
Fast forward to 2004, and in this case I've seen all the nominated films within the past couple of years, so even my addled brain can remember them. I find it hard to believe that Jamie Foxx deserved the Best Actor Oscar for Ray, when the alternatives included Don Cheadle (Hotel Rwanda), Johnny Depp (Finding Neverland) and Clint Eastwood (Million Dollar Baby).
By the way, if anyone says Reese Witherspoon didn't deserve an Oscar for her role as June in Walk the Line it's fisticuffs at dawn. 
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Cheese_Ed
"The Provolone Ranger"
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Posted - 01/19/2007 : 22:13:16
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Cuba Gooding Jr. |
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 01/19/2007 : 22:24:59
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Originally posted by Montgomery
Oscar Worthy? Really? What was so great about what either actress did with those roles? I just thought they were "okay."
Then the Oscar should have gone to one of the others:-
1998 ACTRESS IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Toni Collette -- The Sixth Sense {"Lynn Sear"}
* Angelina Jolie -- Girl, Interrupted {"Lisa Rowe"}
Catherine Keener -- Being John Malkovich {"Maxine"}
Samantha Morton -- Sweet and Lowdown {"Hattie"}
Chlo� Sevigny -- Boys Don't Cry {"Lana Tisdel"}
1998 ACTRESS IN A LEADING ROLE
Cate Blanchett -- Elizabeth {"Queen Elizabeth I"}
Fernanda Montenegro -- Central Station {"Dora"}
* Gwyneth Paltrow -- Shakespeare in Love {"Viola De Lesseps"}
Meryl Streep -- One True Thing {"Kate Gulden"}
Emily Watson -- Hilary and Jackie {"Jacqueline du Pr�"}
I can't see anyone more deserving, although some of these I haven't seen.
I think Sean Penn overacted in Mystic River whereas Bill Murray underacted in LIT and still "did the job", I'm guessing underacting is harder.
OK, here's a controversial one, and not just because it's the wrong thread....  ... Scarlett Johansson should have got a Best Actress nomination for LIT. Every time I watch this I wonder why Sofia Coppola and Bill Murray get all the credit (that they certainly deserve) but Scarlett never rates a mention. She does a perfect job in this movie. She says everything with a facial expression. It's one of the most complete and refined and perfect acting performances I've ever seen by anyone, ever. I'd guess the fact she's a gorgeous sex-bomb probably counts against her, i.e., isn't taken seriously as she only got her foot in the door because of what she looks like, so the Academy doesn't give her performances the credit she deserves. I'm guessing she'd have to do a "totally over-the-top" role in order to be noticed, much like Brad Pitt for 12 Monkeys and Tom Cruise for Magnolia, the only times they've been nominated. Hollywood isn't in the habit of recognising understated but excellent performances by anyone, let alone from hunks and sex-bombs. |
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Rovark
"Luck-pushing, rule-bending, chance-taking reviewer"
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Posted - 01/19/2007 : 23:15:23
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1994 Linda Fiorentino in The Last Seduction should have been honoured with Best Actress
- Not even eligible because some berk premiered the film on tv.
The winner was Jessica Lange in Blue Sky. C'mon now, how many of you even remember the film, let alone the award winning performance.
BTW same year Tom Hanks won for Forrest Gump and Nigel Hawthorne didn't for The Madness Of King George.
BTBTW same year Zemeckis got Best Director for Gump and Tarantino didn't for Pulp Fiction.
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 07:29:13
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Originally posted by Rovark
BTW same year Tom Hanks won for Forrest Gump and Nigel Hawthorne didn't for The Madness Of King George.
I remember that one - Hawthorne was robbed!
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turrell
"Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhh "
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 07:40:24
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I think you can make a distinction between this person should have won over the actual winner and someone who won inexplicably (regardless of competition). It can be argued that Bill Murray and Sean Penn delivered very different performances but nearly equally strong for instance - either was worthy of an Oscar perhaps one more than another but both worthy.
Thus I would nominate Mira Sorvino who basically played a ditzy prostitute and not real believably (although I must admit I don't know what a believable ditzy prostitute would act like). |
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Conan The Westy
"Father, Faithful Friend, Fwiffer"
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 08:04:37
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Sean Connery winning 1987's ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE for The Untouchables over Denzel Washington's wonderful performance as Steve Biko in Cry Freedom.
I still think Russell Crowe's behaviour cost him an Oscar for his performance as John Nash in A Beautiful Mind. He must have been pretty close to a hat-trick with his 1999-2001 nominations. |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 08:06:23
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I'm prejudiced but I really think that Alison Lohman should have at least gotten a Best Supporting Actress nomination (if not a win) for her role in Matchstick Men and the script should have gotten at least a nomination for adapted screenplay. I thought it was a brilliant script*.
(But that could be because I'm friends with Eric Garcia.)
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Chris C
"Four words, never backwards."
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 10:24:48
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Originally posted by Conan The Westy
Sean Connery winning 1987's ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE for The Untouchables over Denzel Washington's wonderful performance as Steve Biko in Cry Freedom.
Denzel should have won that by a mile.
I don't think Paul Newman should have got his for The Color of Money. The other choices for best actor in 1986? Choose from this lot:
Dexter Gordon - 'Round Midnight
William Hurt - Children of a Lesser God
Bob Hoskins - Mona Lisa
James Woods - Salvador
For me it's a close run thing between Bob Hoskins and William Hurt. |
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Koli
"Striving lackadaisically for perfection."
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 10:45:50
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Originally posted by Chris C
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Originally posted by Conan The Westy
Sean Connery winning 1987's ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE for The Untouchables over Denzel Washington's wonderful performance as Steve Biko in Cry Freedom.
For me it's a close run thing between Bob Hoskins and William Hurt.
Yeah, I was tempted to go for William Hurt. I was very impressed by his performance in COALG. |
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 18:47:05
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Originally posted by Se�n
[quote]Originally posted by Montgomery
OK, here's mine:-
Sean Penn for Mystic River - (should have been Bill Murray for Lost in Translation)
Yeah, no-one named Sean ever deserved to win anything. 
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 19:14:58
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Originally posted by Chris C
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Originally posted by Conan The Westy
Sean Connery winning 1987's ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE for The Untouchables over Denzel Washington's wonderful performance as Steve Biko in Cry Freedom.
Denzel should have won that by a mile.
I don't think Paul Newman should have got his for The Color of Money. The other choices for best actor in 1986? Choose from this lot:
Dexter Gordon - 'Round Midnight
William Hurt - Children of a Lesser God
Bob Hoskins - Mona Lisa
James Woods - Salvador
For me it's a close run thing between Bob Hoskins and William Hurt.
Tough call for sure! But, I'll tell ya, that scene of Woods in the kitchen before he heads off for Central America ... revealing every nook and cranny of the guy's intellect, boorishness, vulgarity, weird charm -- that's a powerful piece of acting! You kind of hate him but damn it you're ready to stuff your rucksack and hitch a ride.
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GHcool
"Forever a curious character."
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Posted - 01/20/2007 : 19:51:08
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| Although I love both films, I think its safe to say that history has proven that the Academy voters made a big mistake during the 1991 Academy Awards by choosing Dances with Wolves over Goodfellas for Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Adapted Screenplay. Martin Scorsese famously never won an Oscar in his life and Goodfellas was, arguably, the most complex and sensative film of his long, influential career. |
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