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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"
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 Posted - 03/17/2007 : 09:07:28
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Originally posted by demonic
Why, does he eat mobile phones? 
He is in fact screaming into the mobile phone
"get me the hell out of here yet another thread has descended into 'let's rip Salopian to shreds for no reason'"
Stop it guys
Regarding Mr Smithee - there are some good reviews on there as well as some crap. I suppose people who decided not to fwiff anymore dump reviews that are okay. I tried doing an archive search to find the discussions about Alan Smithee when they first happened, but it kept timing out on me Must be a a regular point of discussion... |
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Shiv
"What a Wonderful World"
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Posted - 03/17/2007 : 09:19:29
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I've just been reading about Alan Smithee on another thread. Can some clarify for me..if I Delete a review, it disappears off the site, if I Disown a review it goes to Smithee. Is that right?
I've noticed discussion where people think deleting a review sends it to Smithee. |
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 03/17/2007 : 09:50:43
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Originally posted by Shiv
I've just been reading about Alan Smithee on another thread. Can some clarify for me..if I Delete a review, it disappears off the site, if I Disown a review it goes to Smithee. Is that right?
Yep, that's exactly what happens.
There are some 'good' reviews on Smithee's pages, sometimes people Disown them as they are embarassed about the number of votes a review has. Or because they subsequently discover a similar review written by someone else on another movie, and don't want to be seen as copying someone's review. Or because they wrote a funny but rude review when they were pissed one day and no longer want to be associated with it. Etc. So, some Smithee reviews are quite good.  |
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Shiv
"What a Wonderful World"
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Posted - 03/17/2007 : 11:21:03
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Originally posted by Se�n
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Originally posted by Shiv
I've just been reading about Alan Smithee on another thread. Can some clarify for me..if I Delete a review, it disappears off the site, if I Disown a review it goes to Smithee. Is that right?
Yep, that's exactly what happens.
There are some 'good' reviews on Smithee's pages, sometimes people Disown them as they are embarassed about the number of votes a review has. Or because they subsequently discover a similar review written by someone else on another movie, and don't want to be seen as copying someone's review. Or because they wrote a funny but rude review when they were pissed one day and no longer want to be associated with it. Etc. So, some Smithee reviews are quite good.
Ta (I haven't done a drunken one - yet...) |
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randall 
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 03/19/2007 : 22:49:01
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| I think Smithee is one of our most entertaining reviewers, and I urge him to KEEP 'EM COMING! |
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/24/2007 : 23:34:46
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Originally posted by Tori
Salopian, surely you aren't comparing your plight against Smithee with historical fights against world issues such as racism and communism? There is no principal of the matter, there is an opinion.
Of course I'm not saying that it is of the slightest importance in comparison to those things, but I do think that similar mentalities are behind both ends of the spectrum. History has made it clear that most people not only go along with a regime, but they actively participate in one way or another. I have thought about it very carefully many times and I am really pretty sure that I would not be like that. (It's not that I am seeing myself through rose-tinted glasses and think that I would be a hero - for example, I also think that I would be relatively weak under torture.)
And it certainly is a principle (that of real reviewers' efforts not being pushed down by what others choose to disown, not always for very good reasons). Principles are always 'just' opinions - that is sort of the point. |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/24/2007 : 23:40:19
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Originally posted by Se�n
[brThere are some 'good' reviews on Smithee's pages, sometimes people Disown them as they are embarassed about the number of votes a review has.
bife's "I see wed people" is the case that bothers me most other than the two A.C. examples. (I submitted it; it was rejected, which I actually thought was the right decision; bife submitted it; it was approved; it for some reason got loads of votes. This is why I stopped deleting my rejected reviews.) We both agreed that it was a rubbish review and so bife did not like how many votes it had. However, my order of preference would have been (i) its getting deleted (by far my preferred option), (ii) my getting it and (iii) bife keeping it. Now it is there for ever.  |
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 03/25/2007 : 03:58:55
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Se�n
There are some 'good' reviews on Smithee's pages, sometimes people Disown them as they are embarassed about the number of votes a review has.
bife's "I see wed people" is the case that bothers me most other than the two A.C. examples. (I submitted it; it was rejected, which I actually thought was the right decision; bife submitted it; it was approved; it for some reason got loads of votes. This is why I stopped deleting my rejected reviews.) We both agreed that it was a rubbish review and so bife did not like how many votes it had. However, my order of preference would have been (i) its getting deleted (by far my preferred option), (ii) my getting it and (iii) bife keeping it. Now it is there for ever.
Have you tried reporting it as generic? Smithee's not going to complain if it gets the bullet. And it's clearly generic. |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/26/2007 : 10:59:18
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| I've reported every Smithee review as anything that I can think of. |
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"
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Posted - 03/26/2007 : 13:41:23
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Originally posted by Salopian
I've reported every Smithee review as anything that I can think of.
So its WAR then... |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/26/2007 : 13:57:22
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| It was a while ago. I think some did go, but I'm sure Benj will have considered all cases by now. The worst ones I'll re-report every so often. |
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 13:24:38
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Let's see if I understand this.
You report Alan Smithee reviews.
Benj considers your report.
If, after consideration, Benj decides not to delete the review, you are going to report the same review again? What, until he comes around to your way of thinking? Or until he gets so fed up having his time wasted he just gives in to bullying?
Have I understood you properly?
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 13:43:42
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| I am just talking about a couple of reviews that unambiguously lower the accuracy of the site, and one of which is through its inaccuracy offensive. I will only re-report them very occasionally. It is (typically) absurd to call this bullying. Also bear in mind that I am only assuming that he has seen the reports. It may be that they got overlooked by natural human error, which would be perfectly understandable. People have numerous times posted the same query in multiple places. Until you go around criticising all of those, I shall just put your comments down to tiresome personal crusade against me. |
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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 14:13:03
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Since the advent of the REPORT button, reports pretty obviously go onto a report queue, so they cannot be overlooked in the same way they could when it was just a matter of posts on the fourum. They must stay on the report queue until they are dealt with, so you really have no need to worry about "human error" any more.
If you have reported a review, and it has not been deleted, it must either still be awaiting consideration or Benj has decided not to delete it. In either case there is no justification for reporting it again for the same "problem", is there?
If what you meant was you would report a review again just in case it had been overlooked, it seems to me that "the worst ones I will report every so often" is a very odd way to put it. To me it implied that you would be doing this ad infinitum, perhaps as a matter of principle, until they were deleted. If they were not deleted, you would go on reporting it as an expression of your opposition to them. Is this what you meant or not?
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TitanPa
"Here four more"
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Posted - 03/27/2007 : 20:49:18
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| Iv'e noticed that there are some Anonymous reviews out there. Noone has ever claimed them. Should these reviews be given to Mr. Smithee? THey certainly need a home. Im not going to vote for a movie that noone claims. WHat say you all???? |
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