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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/01/2007 :  00:00:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by demonic

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Originally posted by Beanmimo

The Life of Pi (but i do not see how)


Get a brilliant film-maker to direct it....
Can't wait.

Hopefully it will be an improvement on the overrated book, as it will surely not have to include the dreadful rambling about zoos in the first half.

I met Yann Martel a couple of years before reading it as he was taking part in a television programme being filmed in the library of the college where I was working. He was absolutely dreadful - really arrogant and inconsiderate.
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/01/2007 :  00:07:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not sure which books I'd like to see filmed. It would be interesting (although perhaps frustrating) to see a version of the great We Need to Talk About Kevin. I really don't see how that would be at all possible, given its epistolary nature and the reasons for and consequences of that.
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/01/2007 :  00:08:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And, if done very well, Cloud Atlas might make a good television series.
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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

Posted - 04/01/2007 :  02:29:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Salopian
Hopefully it will be an improvement on the overrated book, as it will surely not have to include the dreadful rambling about zoos in the first half.

That's interesting. I do think it's a great book - but of course anything with that degree of positive press is going to have to be mightily impressive to live up to it. Captain Corelli's Mandolin was like that for me. I kept thinking - have none of you ever read any Marquez? That's writing. Of course the rambling about zoos is entirely key to what happens later in the story, can't say much else for fear of spoilering - and I like zoos so it was pretty interesting for me anyway.

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I met Yann Martel a couple of years before reading it as he was taking part in a television programme being filmed in the library of the college where I was working. He was absolutely dreadful - really arrogant and inconsiderate.

That is a shame. Does explain why you didn't like the book though, doesn't it?
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BiggerBoat 
"Pass me the harpoon"

Posted - 04/01/2007 :  03:10:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Salopian

And, if done very well, Cloud Atlas might make a good television series.



Surely viewers would get confused when each episode takes place in a different point in time and location though? I enjoyed the book but can't quite see how this would work.

His latest book, Black Swan Green, would make a better series I think.
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/02/2007 :  11:49:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by demonic

I do think it's a great book - but of course anything with that degree of positive press is going to have to be mightily impressive to live up to it... Of course the rambling about zoos is entirely key to what happens later in the story, can't say much else for fear of spoilering - and I like zoos so it was pretty interesting for me anyway.

I did think it was good, just very flawed. I enjoyed the sea half and the general concept, but I don't agree that the zoo lecture was needed. It was just a case of a writer wanting to say something and so saying it regardless.
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That is a shame. Does explain why you didn't like the book though, doesn't it?

I did try to keep an open mind, and had the book been great I would have retrospectively excused his arrogance (somewhat)!
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/02/2007 :  11:52:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BiggerBoat

Surely viewers would get confused when each episode takes place in a different point in time and location though?

That would sort of be the point and would only be the same as the book. Sure, it wouldn't be a mainstream series, but that's fine by me. It could even be marketed as a series of separate stories under an umbrella title.
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BiggerBoat 
"Pass me the harpoon"

Posted - 04/02/2007 :  13:11:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Salopian

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Originally posted by BiggerBoat

Surely viewers would get confused when each episode takes place in a different point in time and location though?

That would sort of be the point and would only be the same as the book. Sure, it wouldn't be a mainstream series, but that's fine by me. It could even be marketed as a series of separate stories under an umbrella title.



You might be right. I seem to remember that the link between the stories is really quite subtle, and easily missed if you're not paying attention. At least the film maker could draw attention to the connection between the stories. And you'd highlight this feature in the marketing as well I suppose.

You might like another book I read recently Sal - Remainders by Tom McCarthy. Gloriously weird but progressively so, in a manner that draws you in and allows you to think it's normal. It's his debut book and I think we'll be hearing a lot more about him.
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BiggerBoat 
"Pass me the harpoon"

Posted - 04/02/2007 :  13:17:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I kept thinking - have none of you ever read any Marquez? That's writing.


Absolutely. 100 years might be unfilmable but Love in the Time of Cholera would be majestic. Especially if it wasn't done by Hollywood.
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/02/2007 :  13:19:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BiggerBoat

You might be right. I seem to remember that the link between the stories is really quite subtle, and easily missed if you're not paying attention. At least the film maker could draw attention to the connection between the stories. And you'd highlight this feature in the marketing as well I suppose.

Or market it as the reverse and let the links come as a surprise. Once the viewers noticed one they would they be intrigued to look out for others.
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You might like another book I read recently Sal - Remainders by Tom McCarthy. Gloriously weird but progressively so, in a manner that draws you in and allows you to think it's normal. It's his debut book and I think we'll be hearing a lot more about him.

O.K., thanks. I'll look out for it.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 04/02/2007 :  23:29:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BiggerBoat

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Originally posted by demonic
I kept thinking - have none of you ever read any Marquez? That's writing.
Absolutely. 100 years might be unfilmable but Love in the Time of Cholera would be majestic. Especially if it wasn't done by Hollywood.
Yep. Someone like Alfonso Arau (Like Water for Chocolate) would be a good pick for director. But yeah, when I saw demonic's post the other day I started thinking about Solitude, I don't think it would be do-able.

But then, lo-and-behold, check this out, I just added it.

http://www.fwfr.com/display.asp?id=18451

Dunno what to make of it, I really think this should have been a Latin American flick. I hope it's good.

I guess I'll have to see it though, as it's got my hot-babe-of-the-moment Catalina.

Edited by - Sean on 04/02/2007 23:33:45
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demonic 
"Cinemaniac"

Posted - 04/03/2007 :  01:52:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, didn't know anything about this one. I think it should really be in the Spanish language as well - as for the cast - well, we'll see. I'm not all that excited by the line up apart from Javier Bardem.

I think 100 Years could be done. Obviously it wouldn't be easy, but anything's possible, especially with *gulp* CGI.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 04/03/2007 :  02:41:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Love in the Time of Cholera. Yep, Alfonso doing for it what he did for Like Water for Chocolate, in Spanish etc would have been my choice. It's not likely to 'sound' quite right in English. Not to mention the whole 'feel' of it needs to be Latin American. Looking forward to the first reviews/scores etc.

100 Years of Solitude. You could probably make this one 'look' right, you've got the ageing issue but makeup can fix that. I think the problem would be the constant turnover of characters; just when the viewer was getting to know them they've grown old and the focus is on the next generation. You'd have a 'bonding with the characters' problem. (I think you might have to change a few names too. ) Having said that, it worked in Sunshine. I'd take my hat off to anyone who could do it properly though.
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 04/03/2007 :  10:01:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Se�n

Love in the Time of Cholera. Yep, Alfonso doing for it what he did for Like Water for Chocolate, in Spanish etc would have been my choice. It's not likely to 'sound' quite right in English. Not to mention the whole 'feel' of it needs to be Latin American. Looking forward to the first reviews/scores etc.



I just looked at the IMDb on this, and while yes, it might not totally feel right in English, this does look like it could be a marvelous film.

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100 Years of Solitude. You could probably make this one 'look' right, you've got the ageing issue but makeup can fix that. I think the problem would be the constant turnover of characters; just when the viewer was getting to know them they've grown old and the focus is on the next generation. You'd have a 'bonding with the characters' problem. (I think you might have to change a few names too. ) Having said that, it worked in Sunshine. I'd take my hat off to anyone who could do it properly though.



I'm not sure this could be pulled off - not without a huge amount of voice-over narration, which I'm not always thrilled with.

This put me in mind of the books by Lily Prior which have lots of visuals in them, and especially lots of lucious food references. Those could be made into some very interesting movies.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 04/03/2007 :  10:25:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm guessing that people would also have had reservations about Like Water for Chocolate until it was made into a movie. But that was a total success in my view. With the right script and director it was done brilliantly.

I'm also optimistic about Love in the Time of Cholera, the fact that the producer spent three years badgering Marquez for the rights is a good sign, he's obviously passionate about it and believed he could do a good job of it. And the fact that Marquez finally agreed is also a good sign, it's not like he was gonna sign over the rights to anyone. So yeah, I'm actually really looking forward to this one now. It comes out in the USA in November.

I read somewhere that Marquez said he would never in a million years allow anyone to make 100 Years of Solitude into a movie. Not sure how reliable that comment was, but I can't really see anyone trying to film it anyway.

I also read that Marquez is dying of cancer, and is 80 anyway, and sold the rights to Cholera in order to provide some income for the rest of his family after he's gone.
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