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MguyXXVI 
"X marks the spot"
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 Posted - 03/21/2007 : 06:51:35
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I have a pet peeve about this (as well as the juxtaposition of aggravate and any word properly a synonym of irritate). Here's an excerpt from some web site with which I agree:
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Hanged means "executed by hanging." Some authorities accept hung.
Hung means "suspended" otherwise.
Both are past tenses or past participles of the verb to hang, but each applies to specific cases.
Examples: The five plotters in the Lincoln assassination were hanged.
We hung the towels out on the clothesline to dry.
Since we are on the topic, observe:
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Aggravate mean "to make worse." The root is grave, in the sense of "serious." Remember this root when spelling the word.
Irritate means "to exasperate" or "to inflame."
Incorrect: His teasing aggravated me.
Correct: His teasing irritated me.
Incorrect: That meal irritated my condition.
Correct: That meal aggravated my condition.
Please post accordingly.
P.S. I know: I'm just being pedantic (actually, being just pedantic, unless you view "being" as a helping verb), but, hey, it's better than ... [you fill in the blank]. |
Edited by - MguyXXVI on 03/21/2007 19:05:11 |
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 06:59:33
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Originally posted by MguyX
I have a pet peeve about this (as well as the juxtaposition of aggravete and any word properly a synonym of irritate). Here's an excerpt from some web site with which I agree:
quote:
Hanged means "executed by hanging." Some authorities accept hung.
Hung means "suspended" otherwise.
Both are past tenses or past participles of the verb to hang, but each applies to specific cases.
Examples: The five plotters in the Lincoln assassination were hanged.
We hung the towels out on the clothesline to dry.
Since we are on the topic, observe:
quote:
Aggravate mean "to make worse." The root is grave, in the sense of "serious." Remember this root when spelling the word.
Irritate means "to exasperate" or "to inflame."
Incorrect: His teasing aggravated me.
Correct: His teasing irritated me.
Incorrect: That meal irritated my condition.
Correct: That meal aggravated my condition.
Please post accordingly.
P.S. I know: I'm just being pedantic (actually, being just pedantic, unless you view "being" as a helping verb), but, hey, it's better than ... [you fill in the blank].
Hooray!
The misuse that always makes me blink is the confusion between to prevaricate - which means to tell a lie - and procrastinate - which means to put off or delay. Not only do I hear among the general public the word prevaricate used as a synonym for procrastinate, more and more broadcasters and politicians are mis-using it that way as well 
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 07:32:14
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I don't see it often but I often hear it - people say (or write) "renumerate" (which doesn't exist) when they want to say "remunerate".
I also can't believe it when I see people using 'your', 'you're' incorrectly, as well as 'their', 'there' and 'they're'.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 08:03:22
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I don't care 'cos nobody learned me to talk proper.  |
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w22dheartlivie
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 08:56:59
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I have a pet peeve, although I suppose by definition either is correct. There's a bed commercial that has an actor say "I haven't been awoke in the night forever.."
It just makes me cringe, as I've always said "I haven't been awakened."
It's just me. |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 09:25:25
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| I quite agree, MguyX et al, but if I had posted these, napper and george_kaplan would have been ranting and raving at me by now! |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 09:33:12
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Here's another one: allude and elude
Allude means to reference something indirectly
Elude means to avoid something
I've seen many people use the wrong one.
(But because they are pronounced almost the same, I just wrote a review that uses one to pun on the other!)
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 10:13:22
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Affect/effect is another pair.
It should be said, though, that the 'annoy' sense of aggravate dates back to the seventeenth century. This is like the spelling supercede dating back to the sixteenth century. I would still err away from these, though. |
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duh 
"catpurrs"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 11:40:50
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I thought this topic would be about actors of Asian descent.
I can't think of a complaint that would be specific to the topic here, but I have, in the past, experienced irritation at the Kansan tendency to pronounce 'eh' sounds as 'ih', and to pronounce 'ah' sounds with an r on them.
"His nick was sore."
"He warshed his clothes."
I've noticed this less and less over the past few years. Perhaps through the influence of TV and radio, speech patterns are becoming more homogenized.
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 11:55:40
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Originally posted by Salopian
I quite agree, MguyX et al, but if I had posted these, napper and george_kaplan would have been ranting and raving at me by now!
Quite. It's different when it's done by someone we respect who only makes this kind of post only occasionally and does it without putting down other individuals' use of language.
Of course the meanings of words evolve over time. For example, "Salopian" used to be a neutral term for someone who came from Shropshire, but it is fast evolving to mean an unintentionally funny yet unlovable, mean-spirited, malicious, shrill little pendantic pip-squeak.
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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 12:05:56
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Originally posted by MguyX
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Hanged means "executed by hanging." Some authorities accept hung.
Hung means "suspended" otherwise.
Both are past tenses or past participles of the verb to hang, but each applies to specific cases.
Examples: The five plotters in the Lincoln assassination were hanged.
We hung the towels out on the clothesline to dry.
Non-humurous linguistic answer - please feel free to poke fun
Hung as the past tense of hang is an irregular past tense form (like sing/sung etc). The use of hang-ed is the regularisation of the past tense. It is accurate in many dialects of English globally. The problem with web sites on grammar is that they often don't account for dialect or sociolinguistic change
When you say 'he was hanged' it is replicating a predicative adjective (as in the dog was red - the red dog being the attributive form)
predicative = after noun, linked by 'to be'
attributive = before noun
Lots of verbs are used in this adjectival way, and they are called past participles. Examples
To clothe
He was clothed
To singe
He was singed
To drag
He was dragged
But sometimes the irregular form sticks
To ring
It was rung
When you look at irregular verbs in English, you have to remember that many verbs which patterned like hang/hung or swim/swam have been regularised now. In some cases it is thought that the phonology of the regularised word was a barrier to its not being adopted, hence it didn't happen across the board for all the verbs that patterned the same (it was ranged - ugh).
The natural pattern of language change is towards regularisation of the grammatical structure. This is why dialects like Yorkshire use
He were
We were
Since hanged is already becoming common usage, it is possible that 'hung' will become obsolete.
Since literacy became a mass form of communication in the early 1800s you can find some person or other writing about the deterioration of the English language at the hands of ignorant youth and woeful (as in the writers were full of woe) essays about 'incorrect' usage. Some of those examples of 'incorrect' usage are correct now.
So in short - it's only going to get worse
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 12:16:31
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
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Originally posted by Salopian
I quite agree, MguyX et al, but if I had posted these, napper and george_kaplan would have been ranting and raving at me by now!
Quite. It's different when it's done by someone we respect who only makes this kind of post only occasionally and does it without putting down other individuals' use of language.
Of course the meanings of words evolve over time. For example, "Salopian" used to be a neutral term for someone who came from Shropshire, but it is fast evolving to mean an unintentionally funny yet unlovable, mean-spirited, malicious, shrill little pendantic pip-squeak.
Oh, how I dream of achieving napper's respect one day! How vastly that would improve my life! 
By the way, if you want to understand the meaning of mean-spirited, you should read through your haranguing of Shiv. |
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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 12:20:59
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Oh, I forgot, and always must have the last word, even if totally irrelevant.
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duh
"catpurrs"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 12:29:49
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
Oh, I forgot, and always must have the last word, even if totally irrelevant.
Yet, somehow Salopian manages to do his schtick without seeming cruel. I have come to welcome Salopian's schtick the way the one welcomes the rising of the sun each day.
EM's schtick bugs me more...but is also easily put aside. |
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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 12:46:25
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Originally posted by duh
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
Oh, I forgot, and always must have the last word, even if totally irrelevant.
Yet, somehow Salopian manages to do his schtick without seeming cruel. I have come to welcome Salopian's schtick the way the one welcomes the rising of the sun each day.
I can only express my deepest admiration.
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lemmycaution
"Long mired in film"
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Posted - 03/21/2007 : 14:42:30
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Hanged or hung?
