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damalc 
"last watched: Sausage Party"
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 Posted - 05/11/2007 : 23:46:48
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^MPAA adds smoking as film-rating factor
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� LOS ANGELES (AP) _ Up until now, only smoking by teens or kids mattered for movie ratings. But the Motion Picture Association of America has a new guideline.
� If smoking by adults is pervasive in a movie or the film glamorizes smoking, the M-P-A-A will fold that into the ratings, depending on the context.
� That means it wouldn't be an issue if it's a historical setting, as with the chain-smoking Edward R. Murrow in "Good Night and Good Luck."
� Critics say the move to put smoking on par with sex, violence and language when it comes to rating films doesn't go far enough to discourage teens from taking up the habit of lighting up.
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i'm not a big fan of the mpaa in the first place, and i think this is a little silly. so if somebody blazes up in "Alien vs. Predator," it goes from pg-13 to r?
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TitanPa 
"Here four more"
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 02:36:06
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| Does that mean '200 Cigarettes' gets an X rating? |
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Tori
"I don't get it...."
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 06:34:48
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Originally posted by TitanPa
Does that mean '200 Cigarettes' gets an X rating?
No, it gets an
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rating. :) |
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duh 
"catpurrs"
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 08:04:18
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Originally posted by damalc
^MPAA adds smoking as film-rating factor
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� LOS ANGELES (AP) _ Up until now, only smoking by teens or kids mattered for movie ratings. But the Motion Picture Association of America has a new guideline.
� If smoking by adults is pervasive in a movie or the film glamorizes smoking, the M-P-A-A will fold that into the ratings, depending on the context.
� That means it wouldn't be an issue if it's a historical setting, as with the chain-smoking Edward R. Murrow in "Good Night and Good Luck."
� Critics say the move to put smoking on par with sex, violence and language when it comes to rating films doesn't go far enough to discourage teens from taking up the habit of lighting up.
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i'm not a big fan of the mpaa in the first place, and i think this is a little silly. so if somebody blazes up in "Alien vs. Predator," it goes from pg-13 to r?
I've seen the Fred MacMurray film Dive Bomber on TV a couple of times. As someone mentioned on the bboard link, I found it remarkable how often the characters were smoking. I laughed because it seemed so comical to me. It was also humorous to me to see MacMurray cast as a military dive bomber pilot. |
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Shiv 
"What a Wonderful World"
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 08:56:41
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| I just got a review accepted for Silkwood that pointed out how much smoking goes on in that movie! |
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 09:01:29
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D'you think they'll have to change Smokin' Aces to Xxxxxx' Aces?
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Shiv
"What a Wonderful World"
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 11:41:32
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
D'you think they'll have to change Smokin' Aces to Xxxxxx' Aces?
Or bleep out Jim Carrey in The Mask everytime he says Smooookiiin'!? |
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w22dheartlivie
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 12:36:14
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I may be old-fashioned, but it seems to me that the MPAA is trying to force standards into films in order to impart control over factors that are clearly not in its bailiwick. Whatever happened to parents making choices for their children? Whatever happened to children learning the rights and wrongs of life at home? They've been restricting access to movies for years now, based on sexual content, language and violence. And yet... and yet...
Teenage sex is, at least in my corner of the world, a bigger problem than it was 25 years ago. The use of foul language by the younger generation is really very alarming. And just read the newspaper for the skinny on violence in our society. It appears to me that the more society, or in particular, governing bodies, puts restrictions on things, the more enticing it makes them. In 1971, US regulations banned television advertising for tobacco, and yet studies showed that the actual rate of smoking did not start to decrease until the mid-1990s, more coincidental with increasing cigarette taxes. I have yet to meet a 16 year old pregnant girl who said she just had to have sex because she saw it in a movie. Quite a few of the teens I know learned their gift of creative profanity at school.
I don't know exactly who it was that decided that we must be protected from ourselves, but it seems to me that it gets worse as time goes on. I didn't start having sex because PeeWee lost his virginity to Wendy in Porky's. I didn't start drinking because Karen Allen out-drank the locals in that bar in Tibet in Raiders of the Lost Ark. I didn't get into a fist fight with my best friend after a high school dance because David Patrick Kelly kept clicking those bottles together in Warriors. I didn't start using profanity because in The Thing, Palmer looked over and said "You've got to be fucking kidding me!!" when Norris' head falls off, sprouts spider legs and walks off upside down. I didn't start smoking because I saw John McClane do it in Die Hard. And I didn't stop any of those things because someone passed a resolution that it was for over 17 years old only.
It just annoys me to no end when things keep getting more and more restricted. It rubs my freedom of choice the wrong way. Yippee-ki-yay.
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ragingfluff
"Currently lost in Canada"
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Posted - 05/12/2007 : 17:00:04
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
I may be old-fashioned, but it seems to me that the MPAA is trying to force standards into films in order to impart control over factors that are clearly not in its bailiwick. Whatever happened to parents making choices for their children? Whatever happened to children learning the rights and wrongs of life at home? They've been restricting access to movies for years now, based on sexual content, language and violence. And yet... and yet...
Teenage sex is, at least in my corner of the world, a bigger problem than it was 25 years ago. The use of foul language by the younger generation is really very alarming. And just read the newspaper for the skinny on violence in our society. It appears to me that the more society, or in particular, governing bodies, puts restrictions on things, the more enticing it makes them. In 1971, US regulations banned television advertising for tobacco, and yet studies showed that the actual rate of smoking did not start to decrease until the mid-1990s, more coincidental with increasing cigarette taxes. I have yet to meet a 16 year old pregnant girl who said she just had to have sex because she saw it in a movie. Quite a few of the teens I know learned their gift of creative profanity at school.
I don't know exactly who it was that decided that we must be protected from ourselves, but it seems to me that it gets worse as time goes on. I didn't start having sex because PeeWee lost his virginity to Wendy in Porky's. I didn't start drinking because Karen Allen out-drank the locals in that bar in Tibet in Raiders of the Lost Ark. I didn't get into a fist fight with my best friend after a high school dance because David Patrick Kelly kept clicking those bottles together in Warriors. I didn't start using profanity because in The Thing, Palmer looked over and said "You've got to be fucking kidding me!!" when Norris' head falls off, sprouts spider legs and walks off upside down. I didn't start smoking because I saw John McClane do it in Die Hard. And I didn't stop any of those things because someone passed a resolution that it was for over 17 years old only.
It just annoys me to no end when things keep getting more and more restricted. It rubs my freedom of choice the wrong way. Yippee-ki-yay.
Ditto... thank you for articulating my feelngs so well about this.
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w22dheartlivie
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 05/13/2007 : 05:10:59
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Originally posted by ragingfluff
Ditto... thank you for articulating my feelngs so well about this.
Why, thank you. Thankyouverymuch  There are certain times, usually late at night, in the still quiet before dawn, that I wax poetic.
Not often though. |
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 05/13/2007 : 11:52:22
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
The use of foul language by the younger generation is really very alarming.
I don't have a problem with this. 
My father swears a fair bit, and my Mum does sometimes too. And me, my brother and sister swear quite a lot. My brother continued swearing around his kids, they're now 13 and 14 but I have never heard either of them swear once. Not ever. Go figure.  |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 05/13/2007 : 12:20:14
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Livie's right. This should be the parent's decision. Ratings are fine, but they should only be considered guidelines and not written in stone, nor should the people who write the guidelines think that they're actually going to be the final say in what kids do or do not see.
I much more appreciated it when I heard that Pierce Brosnan decided that his James Bond shouldn't smoke, because he thought that some kids would look at Bond as someone they'd like to emulate, and he didn't want them to think that smoking was part of that. Of course, Bond's sexual conquests... well... still...
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Downtown 
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 05/13/2007 : 14:36:48
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
Teenage sex is, at least in my corner of the world, a bigger problem than it was 25 years ago.
No it isn't. Teen pregnancy rates in the United States are much lower than they were 25 years ago. Of course, they're still much higher than they are in the rest of the industrialized world, but American teens are NOT having more sex than their counterparts in the rest of the civilized world...they're just not using condoms.
There's a good reason for that, but I'll let fourumites work that out for themselves. |
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duh
"catpurrs"
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Posted - 05/13/2007 : 14:56:03
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Originally posted by Se�n
I don't have a problem with this.
My father swears a fair bit, and my Mum does sometimes too. And me, my brother and sister swear quite a lot. My brother continued swearing around his kids, they're now 13 and 14 but I have never heard either of them swear once. Not ever. Go figure.
The nature of the swearing is what either bothers me or doesn't. My SO can turn the air blue with the extremely emotional way he cusses. It is like he is having a seizure, LOL! I do NOT like that! He doesn't do this at people, only at inanimate objects. Even so, it bothers me; somehow I always feel responsible for whatever is making him unhappy, even though I know I had nothing to do with it. It is tempting to slip some prozac into his wheaties. (Just joking.)
I use casual cuss words myself, but try to curb them while in the company of more cultivated and refined people.
Sometimes, though, BS needs to be called what it is, openly and with great emphasis.
My mother was a real prude about cussing, even though she was poor white trash herself. She was just as mean though, as if she had used swear words.
I had to teach myself how to cuss, and I think I can do it rather well, when the situation requires it. 
I don't care for smoking in general. But I also understand that it is one of the hardest addictions to break. I don't mind if people smoke; what really bothers me is the lack of consideration for others that most smokers exhibit. For example, tossing down their butts everywhere, etc.
Drinking: I've never been much of a drinker, because very little alcohol puts me to sleep. Over the past year, I've finally taken up limited recreational drinking. At age 52, I think I can be forgiven for it. I'm glad I didn't do much drinking when I was younger, because it gives me something new and fun to do now.
My son just turned 21 and shows no interest in any of the vices.
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 05/13/2007 : 17:00:11
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Originally posted by Downtown
Teen pregnancy rates in the United States are much lower than they were 25 years ago.
Is this true - or is it just the teen birth rate that is lower (and even that surprises me)? |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 05/13/2007 : 17:20:29
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Downtown
Teen pregnancy rates in the United States are much lower than they were 25 years ago.
Is this true - or is it just the teen birth rate that is lower (and even that surprises me)?
As of 2006, teen pregnancy rates were at their lowest level in 30 years. The percentage of those pregnancies terminated have dropped dramatically, too, down over a quarter since they peaked 20 years ago.
Edit: I'm getting my data from the Guttmacher Institute's annual report on teen pregnancy in the United States. |
Edited by - Downtown on 05/13/2007 17:23:18 |
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