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TitanPa 
"Here four more"
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 Posted - 05/23/2007 : 18:37:04
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| The recent Spider-man and Batman threads have created alot of interest. I thought maybe we needed a thread about comic Book movies. Some time ago I added the movie 'Shazam!' on this site. I went back to see whats going on with the movie. The actors who are in talks about the movie surprised me. The Rock as Captain Marvel? WTF? I cant see him as this baby faced super hero. And Brandon Molale. Are they serious?????? We need a baby faced actor. Not hulked up guys. Any thoughts? any other comic book movie questions, thoughts, interests? |
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Chris C 
"Four words, never backwards."
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Posted - 05/23/2007 : 22:55:58
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| Would Jake Gyllenhall fit the bill? |
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 05/23/2007 : 23:09:43
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A Captain Marvel movie has two major roadblocks to it.
1) Alter ego Billy Batson and superhero Captain Marvel don't look remotely alike. One is a kid and the other's a big hulking dude, baby-faced though he may be. So gracefully combining the two is problematic in itself. Two different actors? Special effects and makeup for the transformation? It's a difficult question.
2) Captain Marvel is a product of a gosh-shucks-gee-willikers era in American culture, and his attitude does not really match well with any current movie actors, and specifically action stars. The pattern on his cape looks like a friggin tablecloth, for crap's sake. Not only do I not know how they would effectively cast Captain Marvel, I also don't know what they'd do with him. He's not exactly the most resonant and certainly not the most interesting of heroes; he's not even part of the Justice League, is he?
That said, Shia LaBeouf would probably make a good Billy Batson. |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 03:01:38
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| Captain Marvel: Patrick Warburton |
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MisterBadIdea
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 03:02:25
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| Bam. Patrick Warburton. Why didn't I think of that? |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 03:15:54
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| Seemed obvious. |
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Ali 
"Those aren't pillows."
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 06:59:20
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William Goldman was writing the script at one point, but he dropped out. I don't expect a Shazam flick to work.
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 07:09:10
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Originally posted by Ali
William Goldman was writing the script at one point, but he dropped out. I don't expect a Shazam flick to work.
Too bad. That would make this a movie I would go see - and I'm not into the comic book films. |
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TitanPa
"Here four more"
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 07:23:15
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| It could work. They made Hulk work. They have updated so many comic book heroes. Why couldnt they update him? |
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 08:28:02
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Now that I'm officially old, I will hide the following confession in this almost inappropriate thread:
Earlier, in discussing Spid-3, I rashly stated that I'd been a fan of the comic books, reading them before my mom could catch me and chuck them out. Of course, the Spidey comics weren't around when I was a kid, so I was definitley confusing Spidey with Supey - who's even older than I am!
So, I apologize for that. Not that I haven't read the Spide books and even own some in what is laughingly calle my comic book collection.
Confession here endeth.
Brought to you by SSTRAYCI - Setting Straight the Record as if You Cared, Inc. 
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demonic
"Cinemaniac"
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 15:10:17
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Originally posted by TitanPa
It could work. They made Hulk work. They have updated so many comic book heroes. Why couldnt they update him?
I really don't think they made the Hulk work though - it's one of my least favourite comic book movies because it has pretentions of being more than its source material, yet for some reason is shot in a comic book style totally at odds with the material. Shazam would work if they made it intentionally retro and historical - why not? I don't see why it would have to be updated and contemporary - there would be a lot of charm in setting it in golly gosh America. |
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RockGolf
"1500+ reviews. 1 joke."
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 16:36:40
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Did you know that Captain Marvel was originally intended to look like Fred McMurray (My Three Sons, The Absent Minded Professor, Double Indemnity)?
Here's some more background story. Capt Marvel, in his heydays of the late '40s was nearly as popular as Superman, perhaps even more so. So DC Comics, who owned Superman, sued the publishers of Marvel for infringement of copyright and won! DC gained the rights to Marvel and buried the character for about 2 decades.
In England, the Capt Marvel publishers decided to continue with the series, but because of the copyright problems, announced that he changed his name to Marvelman, and continued printing the strip for years. Then in the early 80's the character was revived in a brilliant series by Alan Moore, his first real hit from perhaps the best writer in the history of comic books. The Moore-scripted issues were reprinted and continued in the States as Miracleman. If you can find em, get em. They will blow you away.
Meanwhile in the states, two other comic book companies created characters called Capt. Marvel. The first was a very bad and short-lived series from "MF enterprises". The character could pop his arms, legs and head off like a cheap Barbie doll. See him in action here.
The second was, not inappropriately, produced by Marvel comics, an alien Kree warrior named Mar-Vell who's "costume" was the military uniform of a Captain in the Kree army. See various incarnations of this CM here.
So when DC wanted to revive Captain Marvel in the 70's they could use the character name as the comic title. Hence, while the DC character is still Captain Marvel, the comic (and cartoons and any other spinoffs) are always titled "SHAZAM!", after the "magic phrase" Billy Batson uses to change into the Big Red Cheese. |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 17:13:43
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Originally posted by R o � k G o 7 f
Here's some more background story. Capt Marvel, in his heydays of the late '40s was nearly as popular as Superman, perhaps even more so. So DC Comics, who owned Superman, sued the publishers of Marvel for infringement of copyright and won! DC gained the rights to Marvel and buried the character for about 2 decades.
There's no "perhaps." Captain Marvel was tops in the Golden Age.
Clearly we must have different sources because the facts as I understand them are very different.
DC did not win the lawsuit. The case meandered through the courts for several years, a lower court actually found that Marvel was too similar to Superman, but that DC had failed to protect Superman's copyrights properly, making the copied elements public doman. An appeals court disagreed, saying the copyrights were still good but sent the case back to again determine if the copyrights were violated. Meanwhile, the publishers of Captain Marvel decided to get out of the comics buisiness altogether, they shut down the division, and just settled with DC. Since they settled out of court, nobody actually one the lawsuit. They settled as a business decision, there's no sense in fighting the suit if you're getting out of the business altogether.
DC did not fully acquire the rights to the character until the 90s. |
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RockGolf
"1500+ reviews. 1 joke."
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Posted - 05/24/2007 : 18:36:12
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Downtown: Your understanding it seems is more accurate than mine. Wikipedia is somewhat in the middle:
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Fawcett ceased publishing Captain Marvel-related comics in 1953, due in part to a copyright infringement suit from DC Comics alleging that Captain Marvel was an illegal infringement of Superman.
DC licensed the Marvel Family characters and returned them to publication in 1972. The company would eventually acquire all rights to the characters by 1991.
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randall
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 05/25/2007 : 01:41:36
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| Give me MARY Marvel, and I might buy a ticket... |
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Ali
"Those aren't pillows."
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Posted - 05/25/2007 : 07:00:48
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I don't see why it would have to be updated and contemporary - there would be a lot of charm in setting it in golly gosh America.
Agreed. But I am not sure whether the studios would go for it.
Incidentally, the Fantastic Four would have worked wonderfully as a retro-comic book film. The first one could have taken place in mid 60's, the second in late 60's and finally the third in early 70's. Kind of like a comic book Forrest Gump.
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