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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."
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 Posted - 09/28/2007 : 17:09:51
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Of course horse is a tasty addition to the menu in some countries. If emotional prejudice could be overcome, that might be a kinder way to control the equine population than inhumane shipping.
Yes, I've eaten horse steaks and roast horse. Both were delicious.
Sorry if this offends.
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duh 
"catpurrs"
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Posted - 09/28/2007 : 17:27:36
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
Of course horse is a tasty addition to the menu in some countries. If emotional prejudice could be overcome, that might be a kinder way to control the equine population than inhumane shipping.
Yes, I've eaten horse steaks and roast horse. Both were delicious.
Sorry if this offends.
I haven't eaten horse steak yet, even if I've been tempted, lol. Now I can say, "My friend Baffy highly recommends it."
I've eaten beaver before. After the obligatory guffaws  I'll tell the whole story. |
Edited by - duh on 09/28/2007 17:29:08 |
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benj clews
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Posted - 09/28/2007 : 17:48:14
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I'll give up meat the day lions, tigers, sharks and (eventually) maggots stop eating us. PETA may not like it but this is just the way of nature. It may be terrible that we don't hunt own our food anymore but then again neither do lots of other scavenging carnivores.
Just as a matter of interest, whose side would PETA be on between a lion eating a zebra? To stop the zebra being the victim (in a considerably inhumane way) would deny the lion it's meal. Or is the lion eating the zebra fine because "it's just nature at work"? |
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Chris C 
"Four words, never backwards."
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Posted - 09/28/2007 : 20:09:41
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Meat eater and proud of it. I've never knowingly eaten horse (but I'll try anything at least once). I have eaten moose, kudu, and goat (very nicely cooked by BaftaBabe  ). Oh, and how many among us, apart from Choccie, are partial to a bacon sandwich.
If PETA had their way, the world would NOT be full of fluffy little animals, as no doubt some of them assume. We would run out of space for both them and us, and all the animals would end up dead anyway. |
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 09/28/2007 : 23:29:12
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From memory, I've eaten crocodile (delicious!  ), horse, gazelle, giraffe, zebra (OK, but nothing special), wichetty grubs (totally delicious ), and human (tastes like pork).
In Ghana they used to eat cats. I didn't, you're not supposed to eat your friends. 
Kidding about the human.  |
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Sean
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."
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Posted - 09/28/2007 : 23:31:39
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Originally posted by duh
I've eaten beaver before. After the obligatory guffaws I'll tell the whole story.
Guffaw! 
OK, tell us the story.  |
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duh
"catpurrs"
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Posted - 09/29/2007 : 02:16:04
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and human (tastes like pork).
Kidding about the human.
OK, but I've heard it smells like tuna.
GEEZ what the hell is WRONG with me?
Well anyhow, when my husband and I were much younger, one weekend we were taking care of my mother's dog while my folks were out of town. We looked in the fridge for something to eat and found some fantastic roast beef. It was absolutely the most wonderful roast beef we'd ever eaten.
When my parents returned, we learned that the roast beef had actually been beaver (the large furry rodent). Dad was a fur trapper and he used the meat from the carcasses to feed to Mom's show dogs. Her dogs had fabulous coats. |
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randall
"I like to watch."
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 18:13:02
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| The best dissection of PETA I've ever seen was part of Penn & Teller's exemplary Showtime series BULLSHIT! Netflickians can rent it; what you want is Season Two, Disc 1. Besides PETA -- and you will definitely be surprised at some of the bullshit this outfit pulls -- you'll also see bullshit revealed on safety hysteria, the predatory love industry, and the "war on drugs" on the same disc. |
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w22dheartlivie 
"Kitty Lover"
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Posted - 09/30/2007 : 20:33:47
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I'm not a vegetarian and I'm not entirely convinced it's a healthier life choice. I love a nice rib eye steak and love prime rib roast even more. I've had some of the more exotic meat, including bison roast, alligator, and ostrich steak. I don't knock the vegetarian, however. I support ASPCA and local shelters and despise people who are cruel to animals.
But therein lies the rub. There's a wide school of thought and debate on what is cruelty, and that often seems to be in the eye of the beholder. Myself, besides overt physical abuse, testing of cosmetics on animals seems cruel and unnecessary (the image of rabbits with ulcerations on their eyes bothers me a lot), and I was disturbed by some of the experiments that one of my psych professors, Dr. Fischer (on whom I had a HUGE crush), conducted regarding animal behavior. I am disturbed by a visit to a veal farm 20 years ago, where calves were kept in stalls too small to turn around in. As a result, I don't eat veal. I don't plan on ever owning a fur coat, but that's because it's too close to the living thing to be comfortable. There's no logic in what I don't do and what I do, nor do I feel the need to establish logic about it.
Having said all that, I'm not a fan of PETA either. Fundamentally, it started out with the right idea, but somewhere along the way, they took a left turn into the mundane and ridiculous. But they do have the publicity machine well-oiled, and I'm tickled pink that Alicia has pushed some buttons, whether they were animal rights buttons, or something else entirely. |
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Stalean
"Back...OMG"
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 15:35:47
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I have a very good friend who has been vegan for as long as I've known her (20 years at least). Her reasons are strictly animal rights and environmental. She is the most kind, selfless person I know. She moved away several years ago to South America and now resides in Florida. I haven't spoken with her about PETA for years. At one time she supported them, but they have changed in the last 20 years. I don't care for them, anymore. There are better organizations out there to support that don't use scare tactics to generate support and funds.
As far as eating meat, I like meat, but I do vegetarian and vegan periodically (I'm a Pisces, what do you expect ). What bothers me when some people become vegans is they try to create meals/recipes that imitate meat. Now, I know that is because they still like the taste and substance of meat but can't resolve their conscience about the source--eating once alive animals, ethical treatment when processing or destroying the environment.
I have a cousin who considers himself, I believe, an ovo-lacto vegetarian, but he still eats seafood. I, also, had a coworker who considered herself vegetarian, but she ate everything but red meat. I don't believe you can consider yourself vegetarian by not eating just red meat. I have another friend who is a true lacto vegetarian (does not eat meat, seafood or eggs)-he is not slim. One of kolo's coworkers just went vegan and lost 50 pounds! Now, if I could lose weight by going totally vegan, I might just try that!  I have tried different diet extremes (Atkins, etc.), and believe me, I got tired of meat real soon. I think any extreme in diet is unbalanced and not worth the effort and distress brought on for whatever reasons.
I resolve arguments with myself by eating as much organic of everything as I possibly can find and afford (meat, milk, grain, produce). My favorite organic/free range meat is bison/buffalo for red meat. I try to grow my own produce and herbs, too. I just finished canning Tomato Preserves/Jam. Now, don't wrinkle your nose--it's delicious the way I make it--lot's of spices. I'm getting ready to can Corn Relish, Green Tomato Relish and Apple Butter next. |
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BaftaBaby
"Always entranced by cinema."
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 16:21:31
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Originally posted by Stalean
I try to grow my own produce and herbs, too. I just finished canning Tomato Preserves/Jam. Now, don't wrinkle your nose--it's delicious the way I make it--lot's of spices. I'm getting ready to can Corn Relish, Green Tomato Relish and Apple Butter next.
OK - when are you moving over here?!!!!
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 16:27:08
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Originally posted by wildhartlivie
I'm not a vegetarian and I'm not entirely convinced it's a healthier life choice.
I don't think there's anything healthy about cutting entire food groups out of your diet, whether you're talking about South Beach, Atkins, vegetarianism, or any other "you can't eat THIS" lifestyle. Interestingly, every vegetarian (and I mean REAL veggies, if you're eating chicken and fish you're not a vegetarian) I've ever known did all the things you're supposed to do, and still ended up developing an iron deficiency and had to ween themselves back on meat. Of course, that's only three people, but they all had the same experience. |
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 16:39:53
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Originally posted by Stalean
As far as eating meat, I like meat, but I do vegetarian and vegan periodically (I'm a Pisces, what do you expect ). What bothers me when some people become vegans is they try to create meals/recipes that imitate meat.
Oh yeah I can't stand that. If you're going to stop eating something, just stop eating it. Don't replace it with an inferior imitation. There are so many tasty and legitimate ways to prepare vegetables and such that the idea of turning them into "fake meat" is rather absurd. Yes, I've tried plenty of dishes made out of soy protein (my rule is that I'll try anything once), and I think they're vile when used as fake meat. Someone once tried to feed me "meatless tacos" and it was one of the most disgusting things I'd ever tasted. Why not just make them out of beans like the Mexicans and their ancestors have been doing for centuries?
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One of kolo's coworkers just went vegan and lost 50 pounds! Now, if I could lose weight by going totally vegan, I might just try that! I have tried different diet extremes (Atkins, etc.), and believe me, I got tired of meat real soon. I think any extreme in diet is unbalanced and not worth the effort and distress brought on for whatever reasons.
The research is finally out on those kinds of diets. Here's why they "work" and why they don't: Your body tends to adapt to whatever diet it's accustomed to. In the West, most of us eat a diet rich in carbohydrates. Consequently, our bodies get very efficient at breaking down carbs and getting the calories out of them. If you suddenly cut out all the carbs and eat a diet rich in protein and fat, you've switched to something your body isn't accustomed to. The calories are still there in the protein, but your body isn't used to having to break down so much protein so a lot of those calories just pass right through you, if you know what I mean. So at first, you can lose huge amounts of weight rather quickly. But eventually, your body will adapt to a protein-rich diet just as it initially adapted to a carb-rich diet. Your body will learn how to break down the proteins and fats, and unless you've learned to eat in sensible portions (and I rarely see Atkins diet followers doing that), you're just going to get fat again. |
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MisterBadIdea 
"PLZ GET MILK, KTHXBYE"
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 18:26:55
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Someone posted this on another board I visit on the same topic. I'd like to repost it, if no one minds:
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The reason meat is so tasty is because I know that it once held dreams and aspirations in its tiny brain, maybe had family who loved it, family that it loved. I know that as it was led, shivering and frightened through the cold steel doors into the morass of animal squeals, animal piss, animal shit, animal blood and animal angst, it was asking itself why....
Why me?
Why? Why you?
Because people want to eat you, little one: it's not fair, no. You don't deserve it. You are one of nature's miracles, a thing of beauty, a bundle of all that is pure and unaffected and free in this earthly garden....but you are my dinner, my sweet.
If I let you live, I will not eat, and I will die.
I. Don't. Want. To. Die.
My tiny, innocent love.....close your eyes now. It is quick, I promise.
Close them.
*THUNK*
(Carving and buzzing noises for several seconds, gradually fading to silence: then...)
Sizzle.....chomp chomp chomp (clatter of cutlery hitting an empty plate)
Belch......
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Downtown
"Welcome back, Billy Buck"
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Posted - 10/01/2007 : 20:45:42
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Alicia and PETA
