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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 04/28/2009 :  13:49:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

No, just pterorists.
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duh 
"catpurrs"

Posted - 04/28/2009 :  13:57:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it unkosher to receive vaccination against swine flu?
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 04/28/2009 :  15:08:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Not if its Mexican flu apparently.

It seems we're allowed to eat Mexicans.

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Cheese_Ed 
"The Provolone Ranger"

Posted - 04/28/2009 :  15:57:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No pterodactyl sighting reported yet, but there is this:
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-04-28-voa10.cfm
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 04/28/2009 :  23:21:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheese_Ed

No pterodactyl sighting reported yet, but there is this:
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-04-28-voa10.cfm

Yep that's been the headline here for a few days. I'm still more worried about pterodactyls...

...and even more worried about hungry leopard seals.
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 04/29/2009 :  15:18:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


And if the swine flu and pterodactyls don't get ya, there's always...
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GHcool 
"Forever a curious character."

Posted - 04/29/2009 :  15:45:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The story develops:

"The swine flu will not take any new names in Israel despite the unease of a health official from a fervently religious party."
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  00:59:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GHcool

"The swine flu will not take any new names in Israel despite the unease of a health official from a fervently religious party."

Good -- it was crazy on two fronts. A disease having multiple names could potentially inhibit international medical co-operation (although admittedly it was highly unlikely in such a high-profile case) and people who (probably correctly) consider pigs less healthy to have contact with than many other animals should be glad that a disease associated with them is named as such.

I initially thought the term Mexican 'flu a bit xenophobic, but there's no reason to assume that Mexican farming practices are faultless and that it spread there purely randomly, so I wouldn't really have cared if that were the consensus term.
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  07:15:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian
People who (probably correctly) consider pigs less healthy to have contact with than many other animals should be glad that a disease associated with them is named as such.


BINGO!
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  07:53:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The other day Radio 4 featured a discussion about the origins of this virus [H1N1] in detail. An epidemiologist and a medical historian, among others.

It's a sub-virus evolved from mutations and combinations of swine flu, human flu, and avian flu. It was first noted in 1998. Subsequent outbreaks in Thailand revealed increased virulence resulted in larger lung lesions.

Swine flu has been around probably as long as human flu. It's not the only virus that can jump the species barrier, and even President Ford was photographed getting a swine flu jab after the disease affected soldiers at Fort Dix.

Turns out, this strain first showed up in Texas, and later in California, when humans passed the virus to pigs!!!

All the evidence so far shows that the mutated strain mutates faster when pigs are kept in intensively reared conditions, standing all day in their own feces, unable to move freely, fed industrial waste mixed with their other food-like substances, etc.

In other words a multi-national agri-business concentration of profit that leads the insatiable demand for cheap meat rasied in non-organic non-free-range conditions has driven the mutation and spread of this virus which is already well on the way to causing a pandemic.

Pigs, btw, are the fourth most intelligent species on the planet, after humans, cetaceans, and apes. Though I have my doubts about humans

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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  07:54:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But pork is sooooooo tasty!

- pheasant wrapped in crispy bacon

- potatoes roasted in the fat from the above crispy bacon next day

- roast pork with crispy crackling

- chicken thighs stuffed with ham, egg and parsley

etc...

*having just eaten, runs off to kitchen to start cooking all over again*

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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  08:47:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Se�n

But pork is sooooooo tasty!

- pheasant wrapped in crispy bacon

- potatoes roasted in the fat from the above crispy bacon next day

- roast pork with crispy crackling

- chicken thighs stuffed with ham, egg and parsley

etc...

*having just eaten, runs off to kitchen to start cooking all over again*





I agree ... but to avoid suffering to pigs and encouraging virulent disease -- make sure the animals were raised organically and free-range, instead of keeping them prisoners.

I didn't want to bring up the whole carnivore/herbavore thing. But my own view is that we were evolved to be omnivorous as per length of our intestine, dentition, and, crucially, amino acid requirement. Despite veggie claims - the complex structure of amino acids that produce essential proteins cannot be replicated by combos of vegetable protein. No proteins are stored in the body and must be continually replaced. Also, our requirement for healthy cells is only achieved by the full complement of the hundreds of amino acid combos present in an omnivorous diet.

I wish that we had to kill our own meat which I think would impart a more profound respect for the animals we need to eat for our best survival. But, as with many things, I live in two worlds - my ideal and my mundane. Actually, the most complete animal proteins are found in insects. Many African people wisely supplement their diet with them. And the evolutionary proof is that all apes eat insects, some having evolved specific tools to catch them.

Our error as humans is bound up in thinking we need so much meat, and that we think it should be so cheap we're willing to cause harm to another species during its lifetime.

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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  10:33:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

[quote]Originally posted by GHcool

"Pigs will fly" is future tense.

It's present tense in fact: English doesn't have a future tense.


{/quote]

we do have a future tense it is just a composite tense, unlike out past and present tenses (tensi).

Edited by - Beanmimo on 04/30/2009 10:34:39
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ChocolateLady 
"500 Chocolate Delights"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  10:49:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Se�n

But pork is sooooooo tasty!


No it isn't. It tastes like rancid lamb.

(Really. Disgusting.)
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  10:57:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BaftaBabe

Pigs, btw, are the fourth most intelligent species on the planet, after humans, cetaceans, and apes. Though I have my doubts about humans





Especially humans who think that cetaceans and apes are one species each. They're the worst.




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