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Sal[Au]pian 
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 Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:23:25
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
Turns out, this strain first showed up in Texas, and later in California, when humans passed the virus to pigs!!!
All the evidence so far shows that the mutated strain mutates faster when pigs are kept in intensively reared conditions, standing all day in their own feces, unable to move freely, fed industrial waste mixed with their other food-like substances, etc.
In other words a multi-national agri-business concentration of profit that leads the insatiable demand for cheap meat rasied in non-organic non-free-range conditions has driven the mutation and spread of this virus which is already well on the way to causing a pandemic.
I'm glad to hear this confirmed, as I had rather taken it for granted. Some will have seen my Facebook status "If we all die from an animal husbandry-induced pandemic, don't come crying to me."
Free-range farming would be preferable, but any kind of animal farming is going to create a higher chance of interspecies disease transmission than would occur in the wild.
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Pigs, btw, are the fourth most intelligent species on the planet, after humans, cetaceans, and apes. Though I have my doubts about humans
I was going to point out that cetaceans and apes are not two species, but decided that that would not be nice.
Pigs certainly do come right up there in the intelligence tests, but I have my doubts as to the validity of such tests as they are very human-centric. |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:25:08
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Originally posted by Beanmimo
we do have a future tense it is just a composite tense
Well, it's composite, but it's not a separate tense, grammatically speaking. Will is present tense; infinitives are tenseless. |
Edited by - Sal[Au]pian on 04/30/2009 13:41:38 |
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Sal[Au]pian
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:38:08
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe
I agree ... but to avoid suffering to pigs and encouraging virulent disease -- make sure the animals were raised organically and free-range, instead of keeping them prisoners.
If 'free range' they are still prisoners. If there is a boundary they cannot pass, they are imprisoned.
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I didn't want to bring up the whole carnivore/herbavore thing. But my own view is that we were evolved to be omnivorous as per length of our intestine, dentition, and, crucially, amino acid requirement. Despite veggie claims - the complex structure of amino acids that produce essential proteins cannot be replicated by combos of vegetable protein. No proteins are stored in the body and must be continually replaced. Also, our requirement for healthy cells is only achieved by the full complement of the hundreds of amino acid combos present in an omnivorous diet.
I think it's inevitable that when it comes to what we deem 'natural' for ourselves, we cannot help but be biased towards what we want to eat. I think the biological evidence is pretty ambiguous, and lots of species have developed the habit of eating or not eating certain things despite their digestive systems' natural capacities. Vegetarians &c. don't seem to suffer negative health consequences and do seem to be less likely to get cancer and heart disease, so when people state that we need things that are only in meat, it patently isn't true. Chimpanzees eat about five per cent meat and have massively more developed canine teeth than us, so that suggests that if we are biologically omnivorous then it is to a very low degree. Before the advent of tools or language, we would also have found it very difficult to catch animals, suggesting that it would have started with just a bit of scavenging. Arguments based on what is 'natural' also tend not to insist on us doing everything that is natural, such as being naked, raping (arguably), fighting, cannibalism and, most relevantly, not drinking milk. We have developed as a species well beyond just doing whatever takes our fancy. We can do the right thing instead (now that we have created the construct of right and wrong). |
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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:39:52
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Originally posted by Beanmimo
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Originally posted by Salopian
[quote]Originally posted by GHcool
"Pigs will fly" is future tense.
It's present tense in fact: English doesn't have a future tense. 
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we do have a future tense it is just a composite tense, unlike out past and present tenses (tensi).
Like this, do you mean?! |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:39:52
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Originally posted by ChocolateLady
It tastes like rancid lamb.
How do you know what rancid lamb tastes like?! |
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:40:10
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Originally posted by Salopian
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Originally posted by Beanmimo
we do have a future tense it is just a composite tense
Well, it's composite, but it's not a tense, grammatically speaking.
True.
Realsitically speaking in future try not to make me tense you wouldn't like me when I'm tense. |
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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:45:11
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No, it's not true, it's complete nonsense. Of course it's a tense.
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:47:12
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
No, it's not true, it's complete nonsense. Of course it's a tense.
Shall I P.M. you the details of all my linguistics tutors so that you can take it up with them? I don't want to assume that they would know more about it than you.  |
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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:48:04
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No, please don't bother. I don't need to take it up with anyone, including you.
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:49:55
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
No, please don't bother. I don't need to take it up with anyone, including you.
Why did you then? |
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Whippersnapper.
"A fourword thinking guy."
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:55:26
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Because I wanted to say what I have said.
I have nothing more to say on the matter and do not want to receive any information on the subject from you or your tutors, who, incidentally, have my most profound sympathy for their misfortune.
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Beanmimo
"August review site"
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 13:58:09
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
No, please don't bother. I don't need to take it up with anyone, including you.
He has a point, it's one of the few little things i remember from studying English all those years ago, a composite future tense (inherted from the Germanic root of the English language) isn't really a tense at all.
another one was about pronunciation.... pronoumce the following five letters
ghoti.
(i'm not sure whether this will work as I can't hear your efforts. |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 14:01:36
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
Because I wanted to say what I have said.
Because you wanted to just announce that you were correct without providing any evidence, as usual. You simply wanted to disagree with me for the sake of it even though you did not know what you were talking about. |
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ChocolateLady
"500 Chocolate Delights"
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 14:02:13
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Originally posted by Beanmimo
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Originally posted by Whippersnapper
No, please don't bother. I don't need to take it up with anyone, including you.
He has a point, it's one of the few little things i remember from studying English all those years ago, a composite future tense (inherted from the Germanic root of the English language) isn't really a tense at all.
another one was about pronunciation.... pronoumce the following five letters
ghoti.
(i'm not sure whether this will work as I can't hear your efforts.
Yeah, yeah... FISH! |
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Sal[Au]pian
"Four ever European"
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Posted - 04/30/2009 : 14:04:16
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Originally posted by Beanmimo
ghoti
Good old spelling reformers and their quaint ravings. All rather fishy*, if you ask me.
*Damn, C.L. got in there first! |
Edited by - Sal[Au]pian on 04/30/2009 14:05:09 |
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