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lemmycaution 
"Long mired in film"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  14:11:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beanmimo







another one was about pronunciation.... pronoumce the following five letters

ghoti.


(i'm not sure whether this will work as I can't hear your efforts.
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Without looking any farther below, let me just say "Go fish".

My recollection is that this was attributed to Shaw.

Edited by - lemmycaution on 04/30/2009 14:13:30
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  14:21:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lemmycaution

My recollection is that this was attributed to Shaw.

I thought the same but I looked it up just now and apparently he said it came from another spelling reformer.

It's ironic that he didn't change the spelling of his own name, not least so that everyone would pronounce it the same.

Edited by - Sal[Au]pian on 04/30/2009 14:26:24
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rockfsh 
"Laugh, Love, Cheer"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  15:06:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
rawqghoti
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Beanmimo 
"August review site"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  15:17:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I'm loving all the cleverness!!
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  15:57:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Salopian

quote:
Originally posted by ChocolateLady

It tastes like rancid lamb.

How do you know what rancid lamb tastes like?!

And how do you know what pork tastes like (not that I think one's behaviour should be determined by any religion)?!
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MguyX 
"X marks the spot"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  17:38:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beanmimo


I'm loving all the cleverness!!

Don't worry: give it a little time and you'll get back to normal.
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BaftaBaby 
"Always entranced by cinema."

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  18:42:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I said, I don't want to get confrontational about anything I post here. So after this I won't be replying to anyone in this thread ... and I offer the following more as elaboration rather than direct reply.

I know full well what constitutes a species, but chose to use more generic categories for apes and whales and dolphins because of the impossibility to distinguish levels of intelligence between say, orcas and amazonian river porpoises, or [crucially as relates to ourselves], between the 4 species of great apes if you include bonobos, and even the lesser apes, lars and gibbons.

What's indisputable by anyone who's been following the research for the past 35 years is that pigs come 4th in any configuration of intelligence testing. And yes, I realize that is a mutable science.

I don't make statements about scientific matters based on my own beliefs or practices but upon long-term personal research and consideration of the research of others. I can quote sources if I had more time. I don't tend to mouth off about subjects I don't know extremely well, though I can't promise it hasn't happened from time to time. But not in this thread!

I really hate it when people make assumptions about me and I try not to do that about others. Accusing me of something rather than the more courteous asking me about something may not be the best way to engage with me about ideas.

I'm really and truly just not interested in arguing.

Nighty-night, now!

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Whippersnapper. 
"A fourword thinking guy."

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  20:21:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beanmimo

quote:
Originally posted by Whippersnapper


No, please don't bother. I don't need to take it up with anyone, including you.





He has a point, it's one of the few little things i remember from studying English all those years ago, a composite future tense (inherted from the Germanic root of the English language) isn't really a tense at all.






Well, it is to me. Perhaps to complete and utter pedants it may not constitute a tense by some test they chose to apply, but to the rest of the population it certainly does constitute a tense because it applies a verbal form to a time frame.

I have no doubt that the vast majority of people see the matter in this way and the small minority who insist otherwise are free to do so but would be well advised not to tell the rest of us what we should think.



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thefoxboy 
"Four your eyes only."

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  21:04:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Salopian
Some will have seen my Facebook status "If we all die from an animal husbandry-induced pandemic, don't come crying to me."




Well I discovered sometime ago that I am blocked from seeing you or your status, but I worked my way around that.

Edited by - thefoxboy on 04/30/2009 21:11:18
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  21:14:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by thefoxboy

quote:
Originally posted by Salopian
Some will have seen my Facebook status "If we all die from an animal husbandry-induced pandemic, don't come crying to me."
Well I discovered sometime ago that I am blocked from seeing you or your status, but I worked my way around that.

I just had a look to see what I could see but notice I'm also on Salopian's block list.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  21:15:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8203/31117449158728371299728.jpg
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rockfsh 
"Laugh, Love, Cheer"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  22:03:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Revenge of the Herds
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MguyX 
"X marks the spot"

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  22:34:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe this is the earliest documented sighting, oddly enough, by musicians.
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Sean 
"Necrosphenisciform anthropophagist."

Posted - 04/30/2009 :  23:04:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MguyX

I believe this is the earliest documented sighting, oddly enough, by musicians.

Ahh, reminds me of their "Delicate Sound of Thunder" tour which I saw in NZ in 1988 with 85,000 people through a cloud of green smoke. The pig flew right over my head.
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Sal[Au]pian 
"Four ever European"

Posted - 05/03/2009 :  06:53:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by BaftaBabe

I know full well what constitutes a species, but chose to use more generic categories

My thought and (I assume) W.'s post were only in passing anyway, but if you didn't mean species you could just have used another word such as type.
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I don't make statements about scientific matters based on my own beliefs or practices but upon long-term personal research and consideration of the research of others... I really hate it when people make assumptions about me and I try not to do that about others. Accusing me of something rather than the more courteous asking me about something may not be the best way to engage with me about ideas.

I genuinely don't know what you are talking about here. Is it the stuff about species or my points about what is 'natural' or something else? I think you're really being over-sensitive whichever it is. In the case of the middle category, I think I made it clear that I can see that my own preferences are sure to affect which scientific evidence is strongest in my mind, and I think that's fair to assume about anyone else. No one can assess the science of this area totally neutrally, because everyone has an outlook on the matter before they have any scientific understanding (having eaten food since they were born). And all the points I made are pretty much factual, just as I can accept the fact that we do have canine teeth (albeit very small ones), for example.
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